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Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Sedan
Jan 12, 2004 (4:58 am)
I've heard pricing comparable to the E320 gas. Not the great deal the E300TD was, at $3k+ less than the E320, but I for one wouldn't consider the E320 gas over the E320CDI for the same price.
Question to new "E" owners: how would you rate the quality / reliability of 2003/04 E-class vs. previous generations. I'm a bit skeptical of Mercedes based upon the overall drop in quality that I keep hearing about. Is it overblown or real? After BMW's redesign of the 530i (yuck), the E320 CDI may be the first automatic transmissioned car I will have ever owned. Quite a leap, but I just hope the rest of the car holds up to the same degree as Mercedes legendary diesel engines.
#5543 of 6720 Rear Dome Light Switches '04 E 500
Jan 12, 2004 (9:16 am)
Over the rear seat there is a dome light. 2 of the switches operate the rear reading lamps, and 2 switches don't seem to do anything. I cant find any mention of the rear ceiling light in the manuals. Anyone?
#5544 of 6720 Stupid Observation of the Smart Key ('04 E)
Jan 12, 2004 (9:26 am)
Has anybody but me noticed that when you leave the car for service, or with a valet parking guy at a lot, if you lock the trunk and glove compartment and take the metal key out of the black "Smart Key" to keep with you, and leave the parking attendant with just the black Smart Key, there is no hole left for the attendant to attach a paper key tag to, that will identify the smart key to belonging to any particular Benz he has on the lot... nor can he hang the key up on a key board, because the glove box/trunk key you took with you, has the hole! Shouldn't the plastic Smart Key be smart enough to have a hole molded into it? The only way I see around this is to get a glove box/trunk key that doesn't fit the car and leave it in the Smart Key slot all the time, to utilize its hanging hole. That way you keep the real glove box/trunk on another key ring in your pocket. ??? But that doesn't seem to be "smart"
#5545 of 6720 habitat1- Not quality, quantity.
Jan 12, 2004 (11:16 am)
Have an 03' E500. Last car was 00' E320.I think the issue with decline is not in quality but with reliability. These new cars have alot that can go wrong with electronics.Maybe too much new tech at once. My impression is that many(not all) bugs have been worked out in the last year. With regards to quality I can tell you from my experience that the new design looks,drives and feels better than my last generation E.
Jan 13, 2004 (2:51 am)
I agree with jprescott. I have had 2 E500s, MB replaced the first car because they couldn't install a navigation system. Combined I have put 18k miles on both cars and nothing has gone wrong. There has been a few minor nagging electronic issues, but the overall quality of the car is excellent. I love BMW's but the direction of their styling on the 7 & 5 is awful. The interiors are even worse then the outsides. Also the Benz dealers seem to be very aware of the perception of quality issue and will pretty much do whatever is needed to keep you happy.
Jan 13, 2004 (7:35 am)
After talking to the dealer and consulting with web pages I'm still not sure when it is appropriate to raise the car with air matic. Does this add to comfort even more? Is this only for ground clearance on a rough road or in the snow? Any one have ideas or a web link?
Jan 15, 2004 (12:45 pm)
Any idea when this is going to be available on the E series?
#5549 of 6720 jprescott, clembo
Jan 15, 2004 (6:00 pm)
Thanks for the feedback. One of my business associates just got on the list for a E320CDI to replace her 1999 E300TD. Perhaps I'll join her.
#5550 of 6720 2001 E320 Steering Wheel Groan/Moan
Jan 20, 2004 (5:33 pm)
I now have this problem. Does anyone know if MB has identified a problem and a solution. Last time I brought the car to the dealer in they lubricated the boot. That did not work. Any ideas appreciated
#5551 of 6720 Steering Wheel Moan/Groan
Jan 21, 2004 (9:38 am)
I too had the boot lubricated on several occasions with some temporary improvement. MB then replaced the rack. The moan disappeared initially and then reappeared to a lesser degree, but only in warm weather. I have 2000 E320 4-matic and was told that it is a bigger problem in 4-matic than in RWD. I've never heard of a case where the moan was completely resolved. Good luck