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Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Sedan
Aug 14, 2003 (2:50 pm)
My opinion is that the new E55 achieves both better handling and a smoother ride than the previous model. I have a 2002 M5 and thought the previous E55 (neighbor had a 2001 model) was a harsher ride than my M5. The new E55 I drove briefly several weeks ago was noticably improved. I did not try the "comfort" setting, but the standard setting seemed quite good to me.
I suggest you try to find one you can drive yourself. I also have occassional lower back pain and stiffness. The M5 has never bothered me, but the BMW M5 seats fit me better and offer more support than the Mercedes "multi-contour" or AMG sport seats.
#5121 of 6720 Transporting a MB from Boston to CA
Aug 14, 2003 (2:56 pm)
I am purchasing a E320 (2002 model) from Boston
and need to ship to California (San Jose).
Any recommendations on moving agents will be most
welcome. Is this a safe thing to do ? Do these
companies offer any insurance, and if so, should
I avail of it ?
#5122 of 6720 Now that I'm out of warranty
Aug 15, 2003 (5:07 pm)
I'm getting intermitent ABS/BAS/ESP warnings. 2000 E320. Any guesstimates what the problem might be? I plan to take it to the shop in a week or so.
#5123 of 6720 Now that I"m out of wuarantee!
Aug 16, 2003 (3:32 am)
All you will need is one sensor that takes care of it all, if you notice you have also lost your cruise control, it's all tied in together. A quick job, not sure what it will cost, mine was under wuarantee.
#5124 of 6720 ABS/ESP light
Aug 16, 2003 (5:26 am)
Its anyones guess about Kevinc5 problem. I had the same problem just leaving my driveway. The curb would sometimes effect the sensors in just the right way to fool the control. The error would be terminated by stopping and turning off the car. This has not been too much of a problem since it has occurred less than 5 times in the last 49,500 miles.
If your light continues to appear, take it in and have the system interragated.
For the rest of this forum with cars approaching the end of their warrantee, let me share my experiences. Since the 49,000 mile mark I have had a window regulator, cd changer, and an oxygen sensor fail. All were replace under warrantee.
I asked the service manager if this was an indication of higher costs after the warrantee expires. Their most frequent problems are cup-holders that have been victims of sticky spills, rear window regulators that have not been used regularly (they have never replaced the drivers regulator), air-mass sensors, and oxygen sensors.
All of these repairs are the same cost, if not lower, than domestic repairs. To illustrate how MB prices can be kept down, look at the brakes. The soft pads dust like crazy but protect the rotors. My front brake pad replacement at 42,000 miles was $165.
#5125 of 6720 electrical
Aug 17, 2003 (12:02 am)
OK boys & girls: We are up to 15,000 miles on the new 2003 E320. Brakes replaced twice and still sqeeel at every stop light. People stare and it IS embarrassing!!! Last week the rain sensors decided to furiously swipe back and forth in bright daylight; the headlights would NOT go off in bright daylight (set to auto) and the LED radio display which should show white backround and black lettering in daytime, and dark bardround and white lettering at night, did not work. Got a loaner and car was tied up 3 days. Its fixed, but for how long?
#5126 of 6720 Your E-class
Aug 17, 2003 (4:15 am)
Merrell said, <<<<Got a loaner and car was tied up 3 days. Its fixed, but for how long?>>>>>
I think you have 7 weeks, 5 days, 18 hours and 5 minutes and your car will totally self-destruct. LOL! Just kidding.
I really like the style of the 2003 E but my 2000 E430 sport is running perfectly and I just can't imagine trading it until I have problems. Mine will go out of warranty in October. Currently I have 21,500 miles.
I've had only a few items under warranty that have been done besides the regular maintenance. Both vanity mirrors/sunvisors replaced (both vanity covers broke), an oxygen sensor and a malfunctioning fog light assembly.
The one thing I like most about my E is that the air conditioner is the coldest and strongest I've had on any car. My 2002 ML500 is almost as good. I have noticed that the brakes on the ML sqeel like your E does. My E is quiet.
Just my .02 worth, Mark156
#5127 of 6720 Old v.New E320
Aug 17, 2003 (5:06 pm)
I had the oportunity to drive the 211 E320 while my 2000 was in for servicing. There was no noticeable change in handling, noise, passenger room. The trunk is significantly larger. The interior mirror is mounted in the ceiling and feels very close to the drivers face. The dash has nice, flowing lines with a touch of chrome along the wood. I prefer the large gauges of the 210.The seats are comfortable but cannot be lowered as much as the 210. Rear seat leg room is less with no space under the front seats for your feet.
I got into the 2003 E320 thinking that it would blow me away. I got out of it with a greater appreciation for the 2000 E320.
As an aside, my Bridgestone Turanza LS-H tires are quieter, better handling, and smoother than the new MXV4 XSE on the 2003.
Before I jump to the 211 series, I would have to try the new transmission, the air suspension, and an upgrade in engine to the 350 or the new direct-injection technology.
Don't take this as a MB bashing. I just think that the base E320 is not improved all that much in 211 form.
Aug 17, 2003 (5:18 pm)
Thanks I read with great interest your comparison. How did the steering effort compare between the two?
#5129 of 6720 Steering 210 v. 211
Aug 18, 2003 (2:39 pm)
The boost and ratio of the power steering seem to be similar. There may be a slight stiffening in the anti-roll calibration--translating into a slightly flatter posture in the turn. The one difference that many people may not notice occurs on rural roads that have a lot of crown. In straight line driving there is a slight boost and feed-back in the steering as the car traverses a change in the crown. It does not cause any change in the line that the car holds, but it was reproducible with every change in the road. I have never had that response with the 210 E320.
Other than the above observation, the overall character of the steering has not changed with the newly designed rack and power boosting.