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#4975 of 6720 MBNut - Variable Valve Timing by linard

Jun 24, 2003 (7:24 pm)

Sorry for the late response, I haven't been checking lately, but here are some links on Mercedes' use of variable valve timing which started in the early 90s with the DOHC heads...
 
On the old 5.0 liter V8 from the 1992-1995 E500 -
http://www.supercars.net/garages/PeP/12v2.html
 
On the current V6s (from 1999)-
http://www.autospeed.com.au/cms/article.html?&A=0372&P=4
(from 2003)
http://ca.autos.yahoo.com/newcarguide/16069720020723.html
 
On the old inline-6s -
http://www.mercedesshop.com/300e.htm
 
On the old 2.3 liter inline-4 -
http://www.benzforum.com/reviews/review_02.php
 
On the old C220's inline-4 -
http://caranddriver.radicalmedia.com/member/bg/1995/luxury/merced- - esC.html
 
But yeah, they've been using this technology for years! Go Mercedes! Haha...

#4976 of 6720 Gas pump by laurasdada

Jun 25, 2003 (9:55 am)

I believe that (in NJ at least), the no self serve rule is an employment issue. By having pump attendants required, more jobs are created.
 
Are there any Boston area folks here who could talk about what they paid for their E? Anybody deal with MB of Westwood or VITI in Rhody?

#4978 of 6720 linard by mbnut1

Jun 25, 2003 (6:44 pm)

Thanks. In all the reading I've done on these cars I never picked that up. A guy I've worked with first mentioned the notion of variable valve timing over twenty years ago.

#4979 of 6720 2003 E320 vs. E500 by donk7

Jun 25, 2003 (9:32 pm)

I have owned both a new 2003 E320 and E500. The first had electrical problems that the dealer couldn't fix and they offered me a new car at no cost. I had ordered the same exact car. When the car came in, I decided to drive a E500 before taking the replacement E320. What a difference! Much quieter, smoother and much more powerful! I took the E500 and paid an additional $2800. Overall mpg is about 3 mpg less. However, the E320 felt like it was under powered and not very responsive at times. I had a 99 E320 that felt much peppier. For me, there was no choice! However, insurance is also higher on E500. Standard wheels are wider than Sport Pkg.

#4980 of 6720 donk7 - E320 to E500 $2,800 difference?? by habitat1

Jun 26, 2003 (5:29 am)

There is an $8,000 difference between the base MSRP between E320 and E500. A few items come standard on the E500 that are optional on the E320, bringing the actual price closer together when comparing similarly equiped cars. But I am still curious as to how you got an E500 for only $2,800 more than an E320, assuming that the E500 wasn't stripped and the E320 loaded?? I would have thought the apples to apples difference in price to be more like $6,000.
 
I can't imagine anyone going for the E320 if they could get the E500 for only $2,800 more.

#4981 of 6720 320 vs 500 Price Diff by gsenthil

Jun 26, 2003 (2:19 pm)

E320 + Metallic Paint + E3 + 4Zone Climate Ctrl= $54,115
 
E500 + Metallic Paint + E3 + 4Zone Climate Ctrl= $57,945
 
Difference = $3,830
 
IMHO The E500 makes more sense.

#4982 of 6720 gsenthil by habitat1

Jun 26, 2003 (6:50 pm)

I get $57,600 or the E500 and $52,675 for the E320 ($4,925 difference) when I price the two cars equiped as you indicated. Perhpas I'm doing something wrong.
 
I do agree however, that even at nearly $5,000 more, the E500 is a relatively better deal. It is nominally more than a BMW 540i sport, whereas the E320 is substantially more than a 530i sport, which I consider a much better "drivers" car, albeit a bit smaller than the E. On the other hand, when afurther loaded E500 starts going into the $60k+ range, it seems to me the M5 or new E55 starts to look like a better deal, if that's not a contrdiction in terms at $70k+

#4983 of 6720 pricing by gsenthil

Jun 27, 2003 (1:52 pm)

Did you price it manually? Or did you "Build Your Own" at mbusa? Please make sure there is no special order charge/configuration.
 
The prices I obtained above are from MBUSA.com- Build Your Own

#4984 of 6720 E320 vs E500 by fsmmcsi

Jun 27, 2003 (5:09 pm)

While the diesel is coming (to all but 5 states), the Supercharged 3.2 V6 from the C-class would be a good engine for the E-class - good power, and better fuel efficiency. For now, the 500 seems to be the best choice. The car weighs too much for the V6.

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