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Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Sedan
#4887 of 6720 Integrated Cellphone
May 05, 2003 (7:20 pm)
I have a 2002 E320 with the integrated MB phone:
A hands-free phone is great, but get an aftermarket one. www.cellport.com has an aftermarket hands-free system with voice activation that allows you to pick any cellphone you want. This same company/technology will be available in future Benzes.
What you don't get if you go with any aftermarket:
Steering wheel integration; Dashboard integration; full radio integration. (The cellport system will blank out your radio when you make/receive a call); but you can't dial using the radio's keypad [but some cell phones have voice activation].
On another note: What may happen: Current owners (like me) MAY be able to upgrade their Timeports to the future phone system for a price
For some reason, I doubt that this will ever take place.
Reason not to get MB the integrated phone:
If it breaks (under warranty), MB dealers have to send it out to Motorola for a new one; You could be without a phone for about 10 days. If you drop it and it breaks, you're out several hundred dollars. Warranty does not cover a broken screen.
The Timeport is a tried and true cellphone: It works (just like the old home rotary phones). If you like that sort of thing and can be happy with it for the next 2 years or so... It probably won't add anything to the resale value of the car.
What should happen if you have voice-mail is that the radio/cd player should blank out every so often. This indicates that you have voice mail. This maybe carrier dependent though.
Also: Only the Mercedes Benz's branded Timeports will integrate with the car. A regular Timeport will NOT work in the car, no matter what anyone says!
Also: Depending upon what you are offered: You could go with a Timeport or V60. I don't think they are interchangeable.
I'm on my 3rd Timeport:
Original One: Radio Kept Saying processing. Phone replaced. 2nd One: Radio kept saying NO Phone. Phone replaced (Did not get reimbursed for the 45.00 Nokia that I used for 10 days - now I have a backup phone); 3rd One: So far so good.
Since I bought my phone with the car, I have a 4 year warranty on it. If you buy it aftermarket, find out if you get a 1 year or remainder of the car warranty with it. GET IT IN WRITING!!!
#4888 of 6720 Built in MB phone
May 06, 2003 (1:25 am)
I really like them, had the Timeport in the E55 (no voice recognition) and the V60 in the SL500 (full kit with voice recognition).
1. You can have your music loud and the system will automatically mute everything (no missed calls), and your incoming call (if you have caller ID) will be displayed on the dash and radio.
2. Constantly charging the battery (not sure if the frequent charges may shorten its life though).
I find my time much more productive when stuck in traffic with the MB phones. Never do I have to dangerously fish for the phone to see if it was ringing (and to check who was calling me), mess with the radio, or struggle with the car charger when the phone was low on battery.
I find myself checking office voice mail much more frequently when it's only a steering wheel button away.
Of course, no more ear plugs, microphone cords messing with the seatbelts.
Downside? Cost and if you're changing the car in a year or so, it may not be worth it depending on the number of calls you make in the car.
To me, cell phone (like computers) become obsolete so quickly and at such a high cost, the question is whether you use it enough to justify the huge depreciation, as you will not get anything out of it when you sell the car.
If you plan to buy another MB after your current E-class, it may be worthwhile to call MB parts to see if you can take the phone with you? I know MB are trying to make their phone systems more 'forward compatible', i.e. you can keep the system and only upgrade the handset.
They're also coming up with bluetooth universal kits for the 2004 E I believe.
May 06, 2003 (10:53 am)
Thanks for all the great advice. The dealer told me I was getting the V60I phone which is current. $2,500 is a hard pill to swallow but I made the appointment anyway for Monday. They had to order the voice control unit so I figured I better at least make the appointment. I'll check out the bluetooth website this week. I will definately keep you guys informed as to what happens. I have a great dealership I work with and they said similar to what all of you said. Do you think enough time has lapsed for NEW E to have bugs ironed out?
May 06, 2003 (12:47 pm)
I have a 2000 E320 and am considering trading in for a 2004 E500. I assume they will not be very substantial, but does anyone have any info on likely changes for 2004, and any idea on when they will be out? Also any comments on problems with or kudos for the 2003 E500s. Thanks.
#4892 of 6720 houstronmerc - my thoughts
May 07, 2003 (8:07 am)
We have an '01 E-320 and just sold an '98 E-320 to buy a Lexus RX330. One reason to switch to Lexus was the reliability factor.
You'll no doubt notice the increased thrust in the V8 over the 6 when you drive the 500. For my driving, I found the E320 power more than adequate. I never drive over 80mph and the 0-65 acceleration gets me on the freeway on ramps at freeway speeds without slowing existing traffic.
My guess is that MB will fix some of the 1st year bugs in the '03 design of the E. Maybe make the brakes a little less "touchy."
You'll like the tighter suspension on the new E. More like a sports car. Maybe they'll make the '04 even tighter to go with the increased power in 500.
I assume gas guzzling isn't a concern for you.
May 07, 2003 (10:45 am)
Well after all of that the dealer told me that I would be unable to keep the same number for the new phone. Since I do so much advertising with this number it would be impossible to change. However I do appreciate all the help and advice you all have given and will come back to you when it's time to buy again. Thanks again for the great advice!!
#4895 of 6720 COMMAND/NAV system
May 07, 2003 (1:50 pm)
If you read the last paragraph of the letter, it looks like you must have paid up front to get this offer.
My reccomendation is not to deal with the dealer. Instead talk to the Mercedes area rep. Ask the dealer for his number. If they won't give it to you, call the headquarters in NJ and get it from them.
I had a problem with my 2001 C. I dealt with the rep directly and was able to negotiate $5000 more in compensation than the dealer was willing to give. Hence I ended up with the E.
You may have a case. Especially if the dealer "promised" you could add it on later.
I have one of these cars, and I prepaid for the NAV so I am on the list. I will be dealing with my area rep to get a 2004 as a replacement. Who knows what else has changed. It scares me that I may be getting a "retrofitted" 2003.
Its worth a shot!
#4896 of 6720 E500 Pricing
May 09, 2003 (3:54 pm)
I recently placed an order for an E500 to replace my wife's '01 C320 and would appreciate hearing from a few members about their price negotiation experiences. Thanks!