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#3932 of 6709 lex10..E500 by et610 Sep 20, 2002 (3:54 pm)
Also ordered E500 today. Found a dealer with an open production slot on Oct 10 to 20th. Was able to change the E500 he had to the upgraded one I wanted. Not to hard to decide on the E500 over E320. The hard part was MB over Lexus. The LS470 is really one heck of a vehicle. I found it to be much more luxury and ride than the E500.....but in the end could not go with the Lexus.   The navigation system was very important to me and the Lexus has an outstanding system. Mercedes will not release what the new system will be. Still....I ordered the E500. Can't really figure out why.
#3933 of 6709 lex10..E500 by et610 by rayscar Sep 20, 2002 (7:52 pm)
Go to the MB site for the UK. You will find a paragraph or two on the new DVD Nav for the E there.
#3934 of 6709 rayscar..uk site by et610 Sep 20, 2002 (9:01 pm)
I did check the UK site. I have been told by "technicians" at the 1800formercedes phone line that that is not the system that will be used in the U.S. The UK site appears to be a screen about the size of a car radio display.  I am told that the new U.S. system will be a full 6" screen and that it will be supplied by Harman Becker under the MB Brand. I am told to "trust them it is a wonderful system". Actually, I have been told a lot of conflicting things about the system.  I guess I will just have to see and hope to not be disappointed.
#3935 of 6709 MB E320 v. Toy Avalon??!!!#@$%#$@% by yickwo Sep 21, 2002 (7:45 am)
An E320 v. an Avalon? Come on people, what is this board coming to?????!!!!! There is absolutely no comparison between the two.   All kidding aside, we have both the E and the Avalon in the family and the E is by far superior in almost every aspect except for the maintenance and repair cost column (as most would agree). Avalon is a great choice and a good buy for the money in its own class, but the E is definitely much more refined and is loaded with latest safety innovations. Further, most aging Japanese cars have the tendency to exhibit certain feeling of looseness which gives the driver a false sense that the cars may be falling apart, whereas a typical E would remain rock solid and feel almost as tight, as new, 10 years down the road.   I like the Avalon for the value, room and smooth engine, but I LOVE the E for everything that most other make and model automobiles cannot offer. (My ’98 E320 with 62K miles drives and rides just as good, if not better, than when it was new.)   The bottom line is that if you can live with the relatively high maintenance and repair bills and a slightly inferior reliability than the Avalon, E class is definitely the choice!   With respect to the extended warranty, do get it. You don’t have to have the MB EW. You can buy it aftermarket from companies such as Warranty Gold at a decent price. The only drawback is that WG is not accepted by some MB dealers, therefore, you have to find a reputable independent repair shop. I have MB EW on my ’01 M-Class (which I assume would work just as regular MB warranty) and I have WG on the ’98 E (5 years from the date of contract and up to 100K miles). I recently had my first major repairs (AC compressor and belt tensionor) on the E and claimed them under WG. WG came through without any problems, and this repair alone paid for the warranty itself.
#3936 of 6709 rayscar..uk site by et610 by rayscar Sep 21, 2002 (7:55 am)
Thanks for the info et610. I didn't know it was a different system in the USA. I have pre-ordered it too at the discounted price so I'm in the same boat. I'm sure it will be a nice system and am really looking forward to it. Just disppointed that it won't be in my car when it comes. I was told they are shooting for the first quarter of next year for the DVD-Nav but my dealer said it could be later than that! If it takes too long they said I could have my money back. I post any info I find out in the meantime.
#3937 of 6709 MB E320 v. Toy Avalon??!!!#@$%#$@% by rayscar Sep 21, 2002 (7:59 am)
Well put. BTW, if you don't mind telling how much is the extended warranty? Is there a deductible for repairs? I have never purchased an EW before but since MB's are expensive to repair I think I will with my new E500.
#3938 of 6709 Extended Warranty for Rayscar by yickwo Sep 21, 2002 (8:37 am)
I purchased WG EW in March last year, just before my factory warranty ran out. I don’t remember exactly how much I paid, but I believe I paid around 1500’s or 1600’s for WG’s Diamond plan with zero deductible. The coverage as stated, is for 5 years from 30days after the EW purchase date and 100K original miles (not additional 100K). You can check out there website and I believe they also offer 7years/150K protection. The problem is that the 7 years is from the EW purchase date, not the original warranty expatriation date, so you may want to wait for a year or two before you buy WG if your E500 is brand new (but then it could be more expensive two years down the road).   There are few tricks in buying EW (both aftermarket and MB).   If buying from MB and your car is less than a year old, I suggest that you shop around the dealerships (go to M-Class forum and find contact info for I think Lisa in Coach Motor MB ??? in N. Cal.). I bought MB EW from her at a “substantial” discount (even though I bought my ML in S. Cal. and it was almost 1yr old when I bought the MB EW. I don’t know if she can offer good deals on EW for the E, but it is worth a try if you want MB EW. In any event, I would call around dealerships to see if they would deal on the EW.   If buying from WG, just get a quote and sign up at their web site. Don’t buy right away because WG will email you discount emails. (e.g., first email will be $100 off, second will be 150 or 200 off.) I think the best discount I saw was $400 off the quoted price in the 3rd or 4th email that I received. I would call WG sales personally and asked them to give you the largest discount (as offer by email discounts or others alike). I have found that WG sales were very easy to deal with and so far very happy with them. Don’t know if they still use the same type of marketing and special offers. Good luck.
#3939 of 6709 Yickwo on Extended Warranties by et610 Sep 21, 2002 (9:02 am)
Thanks for the great post. I was also interested in the extended warranties. Your post was excellent and will help to get information later. Do the MB extended warranties start after the original warranty period or do they run simultaneously also.
#3940 of 6709 Extended Warranty for Rayscar by yickwo by rayscar Sep 21, 2002 (9:34 am)
Thanks for all the great info yickwo. I really appreciate it.
#3941 of 6709 MB Warranty by mbdriver Sep 21, 2002 (10:35 am)
rayscar -- the person mentioned for the discounted MB warranty is Lisa Lehrbaum, Finance Manager at Courtesy Motors in Chico, CA. Contact info: lisamarielehrbaum.net for e-mail, phone # 1-800-655-3535 or 530-893-1300.   The "Mercedes Care Premium Coverage" warranty I bought must be purchased before the first anniversary of the car's purchase date. I've heard that MB has changed some of the parameters for the extended warranty, but I bought mine from Lisa for my 2000 E320 in March 2001. It adds another 48 months/50,000 miles to the original MB warranty and listed (then) for $2,650; I paid only $1,680 for mine, and I bought my car in Maryland.   Hope this helps. Good luck, and let us know how you make out.

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