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#3918 of 6709 MB Windows - footie by finadv Sep 18, 2002 (10:30 am)
I wouldn't take anyone who drives a ten year old Mercury too seriously when it comes to cars.
#3919 of 6709 Any suggestions on used MB's? by discountdaddy1 Sep 18, 2002 (11:30 pm)
Hello Everyone,   I had to turn in my leased Toyota Avalon this month and I thought that I was going to buy a new Toyota Avalon to replace it. A friend of mine asked why I was not looking at a used Mercedes E320 since I would get a superior car for roughly the same price as a new Avalon. I am researching the E320 right now, but I thought I'd ask the group a few questions to make my job easier.   1. Is there any significant difference between a 1999 and 2000 year model? I see a lot of used 1999 models at affordable prices.   2. How many miles is "too much" for a used Mercedes? I know that this is subjective and is directly related to how by budget restrictions, but I'd love to get some feedback from everyone on "best value": i. e., miles and price.   3. What features should I look for? I am familiar with the options that come on the 1999 and 2000 E320. Are there any options that are "must have."
#3920 of 6709 Check Engine Light by jparrott Sep 19, 2002 (5:25 am)
MSG #3725 howiebx...   Does the engine run rough? My '98 E320 had a check engine light problem for a year, from 13,000 miles to 19,000 miles. Multiple trips to the dealer, under warranty thank goodness. Replaced injectors, coils, plugs, sensors, etc., etc. 29 days of shop time.   Finally they were taking the heads off to do the valves when they discovered a broken head gasket between cyl 4 and 5. As it leaked into the adjacent cylinder, the system sensed an anomaly and shut down that cylinder, hence the rough running. After warming up, I guess the gasket expanded and sealed and started running normally after the next engine start.   The check engine light could be a lot of things, but that's what it was for me. I couldn't be happier with the nice treatment I got from the service folks at HBL in Tysons. I have to wonder a little bit about why they couldn't have found the problem sooner, but it was a bit elusive. The service manager pledged to find it and fix it and that he did, and we became friends into the bargain.
#3921 of 6709 discountdaddy1 by bigrobnh Sep 19, 2002 (6:04 am)
hope you get good feedback on this, I only have a little to contribute. 1) was 2000 the year they did the re-design of the front end, lowering the hood line, and obsoleting the diesel from use. If so, 2) no input 3) the standard features are pretty rich on the car. as far as options:   a) I live in NH. 4Matic was a must. it is excellent in the snow.   b) xenon headlights.   Something to consider is finding one with a transferrable extended warranty. The thing that is really hard to get your mind around with these is the potentially staggering cost of keeping them running. So when your friend says you can get it for the same cost, there is a big fat asterisk next to that statement. Buying the new Avalon will have essentially no maintenance cost for the first 3 years of ownership.   Regards, BigRob.
#3922 of 6709 DiscountDaddy re: used E320 by dunninla Sep 19, 2002 (8:36 am)
The 2000 does have a lower front profile.   Questions you need to consider: 1) How much free maintenance is included with a '2000 when bought used or Starmark preowned? 2) If you buy/lease Starmark, you get one extra year of warranty included. 3) When warranty is over, can you afford the extra $$ it takes to regulary maintain a Benz vs. a Toyota? 4) Does the cache of owning a Benz matter to you or is it important for your business? 5) Is the taughter German suspension important to you? If so, you can get even more sporty by spending another $2,500 and upgrading to 17" wheels, performance tires and an Eibach spring suspension. It would seem silly to do that with an Avalon, but not an E320.   I love my '01 E320 and would do it again.
#3923 of 6709 for Disc.Dad by r1_97 Sep 19, 2002 (9:09 am)
Not much diff in 1999-2000. I have both a 98 and '01. The latter seems to have a little firmer suspension. Most important consideration in buying a used MB especially,if not under warranty, is condition of car and secondly, the amount of miles driven.    Have it checked out thoroughly by an independent mechanic w/ a good reputation. Bear in mind that repair and maintenance work on a MB is much more expensive than on a Toyota.   Bottom line: You'll enjoy driving the MB much more than the Toyota BUT you have a much higher per mile cost of use even though the purchase price will be equal.
#3924 of 6709 Gas mileage of E class by lex10 Sep 19, 2002 (12:03 pm)
Can anyone advise if the 2003 E500 really earned the gas guzzler tax. Does it really get horrible mileage in city driving? Any owners of an E430 please comment as well. Are the extra horses worth it? Advise is appreciated, still undecided between the E500 and E320.
#3925 of 6709 2000 MB vs Avalon by mbdriver Sep 19, 2002 (3:24 pm)
I think it was bigrobnh who mentioned finding a 2000 E-Class with an extended warranty. That's an extremely good point that could save you a bundle in repair costs for the next 5.5 years or so, or up to 100,000 miles -- if you opt for the Mercedes For example, my 2000 E320 has less than 15,000 miles and also has the extra-cost 4-year MB warranty extension. That means that I'll avoid any major repair expense until after May 2008!   Problem will be FINDING one. I don't plan on selling or trading my own car in the immediate future, and I doubt if many owners of MB 2000 E-Class with similar mileage and extended warranty do either. But . . . there's always the exception. If you do find one, expect to pay a premium price -- but IMHO it probably will be worth every penny!   Good luck, and let us know what you finally decide and why.
#3926 of 6709 Gas mileage of E class by lex10 by rayscar Sep 19, 2002 (4:42 pm)
The E500 does get the $1,000 gas guzzler tax. I think it is in the high teens city and low twenties highway. I also think it just missed not getting the tax. To me the extra power is important as is all the equipment that comes standard on the 500 that is an option on the 320. We all have different priorities and different budgets. To each their own.
#3927 of 6709 Service Writer Compensation by kevinc5 Sep 19, 2002 (5:04 pm)
Typically, how are Mercedes Benz service writers compensated?

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