Last post on Dec 09, 2013 at 2:58 AM
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Toyota ECHO, Sedan
#5802 of 5822 Re: I need two wheels for my snow tires [mnman]
by Kirstie@Edmunds HOST
Jan 10, 2013 (9:10 am)
Since this forum has people from all over the US and other parts of the world, it's not really a good venue to buy/sell parts. To target a local audience, your best bet is craigslist.org.
#5803 of 5822 Re:Cruise control
May 10, 2013 (12:34 am)
Can you add this to the Echo's as well???
#5804 of 5822 Re:Cruise control [ztramno27]
May 10, 2013 (2:02 am)
No the ECHO uses a mechanical/electrical cruise control and the accelerator is connected to the throttle by a cable. The CC for the YAris (and probably everything else made recently) is contained in the ECM that runs the engine and the throttle is connected to the gas pedal electronically. Basically the CC is on every car with this feature whether its sold with cc or not. You would just have to add the stalk.
The good news for ECHO owners is the cable allows a smooth transition from standing still to moving. Like at a light or stop sign. The fly by wire of the Yaris has a very jerky and uneven transition.
#5805 of 5822 Re:Cruise control [kneisl1]
May 20, 2013 (9:32 pm)
Indeed the throttle by wire pretty much wrecks what would otherwise be a very decent little driver's car, with the SE trim in the new model. I like so much about it I might consider keeping it at the end of the lease even though the throttle is so awful.
May 21, 2013 (1:56 am)
Hi Nip what are you driving now? I thought I remember you sold the ECHO....
#5807 of 5822 2000 echo clicking
May 28, 2013 (6:20 pm)
Hi, my Echo developed a clicking noise under the hood. It does not speed up as I accelerate, it actually seems to go away when I am pressing on the gas pedal. It speeds up when I kick on the AC. When I start the car it takes a min before it begins to make the clicking sound. On the way home from work I noticed that the sound would come and go. Pretty annoying and not sure what to look at. Any tips?
#5808 of 5822 hello old friends
Jul 17, 2013 (3:39 pm)
Who from the old days is still checking this forum?
I wish I had an ECHO but my son still has his!
#5809 of 5822 Re: hello old friends [kneisl1]
Aug 05, 2013 (9:14 pm)
I still stop by occasionally. My brother in law has my old Echo, now passing 185K and still going strong, and still no repairs EVER! Quite a record. He did finally have to replace the front brake pads though, something I never did the whole time (10 years, 165K miles) I had it.
My '12 Yaris SE is much much more fun to drive, what with the vastly improved handling and somewhat better steering as well. The deal-breaker in this car is unfortunately the throttle-by-wire, which is so calibrated so poorly that you have to count one-one-thousand-two-one-thousand after you press the gas pedal before the engine starts to rev. And it actually has "dead" space - the first couple inches of travel of the pedal don't cause the engine to rev at all, even if you sit there for a count of ten.
I think they do it in the name of fuel efficiency, but all it does is irritate the driver immensely and make the stick-shift version almost impossible to drive smoothly. This is the first time I have ever leased, and I was sort of thinking of buying it at the end of the lease when I first picked it up. Now I think they would have to offer me a really great deal, WAY below the residual price listed in the paperwork, for me to buy this out of the lease, just because of that issue.
It's still great as cheap transportation though, and I continue to pull 40 MPG on average, which is nice even though gas prices really didn't jump up this summer like in years past.
Aug 06, 2013 (2:08 am)
To deal with the throttle lag with an automatic you can just take your foot off the brake and let it roll. Once you are moving then give it a little gas. It makes for smoother starts. Perhaps you can do something similiar with a manual I dont know.
I think more people are buying small cars now and that may be the reason for the price stability of gas. Certainly the average use of a vehicle, a short trip to work with a single occupant, doesnt justify a Ford F150 with a V8 engine, or even a V6 in a sedan. Buying a big car which is what the public does, gaurantees they will pay through the nose for gas. Its like putting a sign on your back that says "KICK ME!"
Dont worry gas is going up in the long run...
#5811 of 5822 Re: 2012 Yaris [kneisl1]
Aug 08, 2013 (10:57 am)
What's so annoying about the throttle lag in the Yaris is that it is the result of a design choice. They could have designed it to rev quickly and promptly whenever there was any input from the gas pedal, but they chose not to.
My Subaru also has e-throttle, but it revs right away and quickly with pressure on the gas pedal. Toyota should have made the one in the Yaris mimic the old days of being connected to the throttle plate by a cable more than they did.
My old Echo was old enough to still actually have a cable connection to the throttle. I miss that soooo much in the car that replaced it....