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#5564 of 5646 echo by kneisl1 Jun 01, 2009 (8:49 pm)
Yes better to stick with the ECHO. I find the Yaris does not drive as well. Much heavier feeling. Not as good MPG. (but Im getting 36 on my cycle)     But if you DO get a Yaris at some point no need to spend $$$ on CC! Replies to this message: nippononly (Jun 02, 2009 8:59 am)
#5565 of 5646 Re: Nippononly This Will Blow Your Mind! [nippononly] by dake Jun 02, 2009 (6:56 am)
Replying to: nippononly (Jun 01, 2009 8:37 pm) I'm pretty sure all Yarisii going forward have factory cruise available. It's only the early hatch-back models that didn't offer it - so by the time you buy one, you'll be able to get it.
#5566 of 5646 yaris by kneisl1 Jun 02, 2009 (7:28 am)
Right....but you dont have to pay Toyota for it. Since the throttle is electrical through the ECM, the CC is programmed right into the ECM. Just add the switches and dont pay THE MAN!
#5567 of 5646 Re: echo [kneisl1] by nippononly Jun 02, 2009 (8:59 am)
Replying to: kneisl1 (Jun 01, 2009 8:49 pm) I'm beginning to have a very strong feeling that Echo will be the last gas-powered car offered with exceptional fuel economy. The Japanese are going hybrid in a hot hurry, even as their small gas cars like Yaris make 35-36 mpg or less (Fit makes 32-33). In future they will not focus on making small cars with great FE, they will focus on upselling the folks who want high FE into hybrids.   And the Europeans are going diesel. So nobody will be making a good gas-powered car with high fuel economy in future.   The only possibility is that Fiat will sell their small cars through Chrysler dealers - now those little 500s and whatnot get SUPERB mileage!
#5568 of 5646 fiat by kneisl1 Jun 02, 2009 (9:38 am)
Well we can always hope. GM is supposedly planning a mini car like the Yaris. On the plus side diesel fuel is now priced below regular here in NJ.    Why no one is selling a liter car is beylond me! Replies to this message: highmiler650 (Jun 02, 2009 9:58 am)
#5569 of 5646 Re: fiat [kneisl1] by highmiler650 Jun 02, 2009 (9:58 am)
Replying to: kneisl1 (Jun 02, 2009 9:38 am) Simple. Americans do not like manual transmissions, generally speaking. Small engines that need high RPM's to generate their power are poor candidates for automatic transmissions.
#5570 of 5646 What next? by babyboomer Jun 07, 2009 (3:34 am)
What is the best replacement when all these ECHOs are gone?
#5571 of 5646 replacement by kneisl1 Jun 07, 2009 (10:49 am)
Right now....nothing. Possibly I hear Toyota is going to bring the iQ here next fall. But that is far from given what with the economic climate. Instead of giving it the 1.3 liter, or the 1 liter (or even, be still my heart!) the 1.4 liter diesel, its supposed to have the 1.5 liter ECHO engine. And it still weighs nearly 2000 pounds! Not good.    I thought the Smart Car might be good but the mileage stinks...worse than the ECHO.    My friend at work has a Kia Rio that gets 23 mpg....    I hear GM is planning on building a Yaris clone with a 1.2 liter turbo charged engine. That would bear looking into. GM...who knows!    Maybe something Fiat will being to a GM merger?     Probably the ECHO be remain the all time small car champ! Nothing can touch it! Outstanding mileage, huge versatile interior, Toyota quality. Nothing comes close! Replies to this message: nippononly (Jun 08, 2009 4:05 pm)
#5572 of 5646 Re: replacement [kneisl1] by nippononly Jun 08, 2009 (4:05 pm)
Replying to: kneisl1 (Jun 07, 2009 10:49 am) No, you have that backwards I believe. They are thinking of putting the 1.3 from the iQ in the Yaris as a base model to compete sticker to sticker with the $9995 Versa.   But the iQ is expected to have the 1.3, the biggest gas engine offered in that model elsewhere in the world. And I would expect mileage well into the 40s, so if a 3-seater is your thing (I think of the Echo as a 2+2), it could be just the ticket. Certainly it looks like a good candidate for a commute car.
#5573 of 5646 1.3 by kneisl1 Jun 08, 2009 (7:39 pm)
Where did you read about the 1.3 in the Yaris? I will be upset if I bought a 1.5 and I could have had a 1.3! Oh well I got free cruise control! The articles Ive read on the internet say 1.5 liter for the iQ. No way (they say) anything smaller will be offered. But of course if it happens I would welcome it.

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