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Re: [kneisl1] by nippononly
Dec 15, 2008 (8:55 pm)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Dec 15, 2008 4:42 pm)

Well, before the 2008 redo, Yaris's EPA ratings (with all the same mechanicals as today) were 34/40, so it wouldn't be much of a comedown from the Echo. Still, it would be less.
 
Speaking of minicars, funny observation: I happened to park right next to a Smart car today, and now I truly have an accurate perspective on its size - it's rear bumper only extended to the door post behind the Echo's front door, when the front bumpers were lined up! The Echo had a full passenger door and a trunk beyond the end of the Smart! Wow, THAT'S small.
 
My Echo is probably going to need a new battery this winter, maybe that will be my incentive to trade it in for something new.............just kidding!
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smart by kneisl1
Dec 16, 2008 (4:52 pm)
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Yeah I would like something like a Smart...if it got 50 mpg or better. But it doesnt, It even has a one liter engine. SMART what is your problem? Why are you so DUMB?
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CEL by rep5858
Dec 20, 2008 (6:31 am)
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I have a 2001 echo. High mileage. Commute 110 miles daily. Well, after the last 2 oil changes, the CEL went on. Three codes came up all emissions, the first time. Second oil change the light came on again, did not bother to check just disconnected ground to clear codes.
Is there a connection between oil changes and CEL coming on? sounds odd to me???
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cel by kneisl1
Dec 20, 2008 (2:13 pm)
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Sounds like a coincidence. What are the codes and Ill look them up and tell you what to check for. It might be something simple. (then again, it might not!)
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Re: cel [kneisl1] by rep5858
Dec 20, 2008 (3:08 pm)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Dec 20, 2008 2:13 pm)

the codes are po446, po441, and po440.
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po by kneisl1
Dec 20, 2008 (4:40 pm)
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Get back to you tomorrow. Im at work now.
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back by kneisl1
Dec 20, 2008 (4:51 pm)
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Ha thanks to google Im back!
 
It could be as simple as your gas cap. Is it loose, or is the gasket bad? Check it out.
 
440 441 and 446 have to do with the gas fume evaporative control system. You could have a loose hose or possible a bad charcoal cannister. Youd want to check all the hoses going to and from the gas tank and charoal cannister for cracks, kinks, or just being loose. 446 is the cannister 440 is the tank. So its something around there. Also could be a loose hose on the air filter because hoses come from those things to it.
 
Good news: since its emissions related possibly it is still under warranty.
 
Good news: not likely to cause dammage if you run with it UNLESS your cannister is full of gas in which case that makes it a bomb. Easy to check that.
 
Good luck and let us know what you find out!
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Re: back [kneisl1] by rep5858
Dec 21, 2008 (7:19 am)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Dec 20, 2008 4:51 pm)

Thanks for your help in advance! How long is the warranty on emissions? the car is a 2001 with 200,000 miles. I'll check that stuff today. ummm did u say bomb? How would I check that? Could be important lol. I replaced the gas cap.
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bomb by kneisl1
Dec 21, 2008 (1:02 pm)
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Find the charcoal cannaster and start pulling the hoses off. (one at a time so you can replace corrrectly!) If gas comes out...you got da bomb!
    Seriously it happens but its rare. I think you can forget about a warranty claim!
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Re: bomb [kneisl1] by rep5858
Dec 21, 2008 (3:54 pm)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Dec 21, 2008 1:02 pm)

LOL ok The cannister I believe is under the car near the gas tank? ok ill check the hoses ( again).
You know anything about this new toyota Iq. Was a concept car to compete with the Smart. Is already in Europe/ Asia etc, but is suppose to be available in US with safety and emission mods. They say it gets over 55MPH.

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