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dylan by kneisl1
Dec 06, 2008 (2:04 pm)
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Hmmm.
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another milepost by nippononly
Dec 15, 2008 (9:34 am)
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so my little Echo just crossed the 110,000-mile threshold, still going strong, still having NEVER needed a repair, and still consuming no oil between oil changes.
 
And this despite my generally miserly ways when it comes to scheduled maintenance! It's due for plugs at 120K, and I think I will ask them to check the valve clearance at that time, a check which I don't think has ever been done before.
 
Between the long life tires I bought, which look like they will go at least 70K miles or more (they are at 50K miles already, with 6/32" of tread remaining), and the timing chain it has instead of a belt, this has been easily THE CHEAPEST car to run that I have ever owned. Not to mention being a perfect little car to commute in, with lots of interior space despite its smallness on the outside, and its superb fuel economy and easy driveability.
 
It turned six at the end of October this year, and despite my frequent urge to trade cars I am thinking I might still have this one when it turns ten. At the current rate, that will be at about 190K miles.
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by kneisl1
Dec 15, 2008 (4:42 pm)
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I could also buy a new car....but what? The mileage estimates for the Yaris are 29/36. Quite a comedown from 34/41 for the ECHO. The good news is the ECHO is probably good for another eight years of reliable transportation. I would so like a one liter mini car though... (NEVER HAPPEN)
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Re: [kneisl1] by nippononly
Dec 15, 2008 (8:55 pm)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Dec 15, 2008 4:42 pm)

Well, before the 2008 redo, Yaris's EPA ratings (with all the same mechanicals as today) were 34/40, so it wouldn't be much of a comedown from the Echo. Still, it would be less.
 
Speaking of minicars, funny observation: I happened to park right next to a Smart car today, and now I truly have an accurate perspective on its size - it's rear bumper only extended to the door post behind the Echo's front door, when the front bumpers were lined up! The Echo had a full passenger door and a trunk beyond the end of the Smart! Wow, THAT'S small.
 
My Echo is probably going to need a new battery this winter, maybe that will be my incentive to trade it in for something new.............just kidding!
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smart by kneisl1
Dec 16, 2008 (4:52 pm)
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Yeah I would like something like a Smart...if it got 50 mpg or better. But it doesnt, It even has a one liter engine. SMART what is your problem? Why are you so DUMB?
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CEL by rep5858
Dec 20, 2008 (6:31 am)
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I have a 2001 echo. High mileage. Commute 110 miles daily. Well, after the last 2 oil changes, the CEL went on. Three codes came up all emissions, the first time. Second oil change the light came on again, did not bother to check just disconnected ground to clear codes.
Is there a connection between oil changes and CEL coming on? sounds odd to me???
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cel by kneisl1
Dec 20, 2008 (2:13 pm)
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Sounds like a coincidence. What are the codes and Ill look them up and tell you what to check for. It might be something simple. (then again, it might not!)
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Re: cel [kneisl1] by rep5858
Dec 20, 2008 (3:08 pm)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Dec 20, 2008 2:13 pm)

the codes are po446, po441, and po440.
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po by kneisl1
Dec 20, 2008 (4:40 pm)
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Get back to you tomorrow. Im at work now.
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back by kneisl1
Dec 20, 2008 (4:51 pm)
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Ha thanks to google Im back!
 
It could be as simple as your gas cap. Is it loose, or is the gasket bad? Check it out.
 
440 441 and 446 have to do with the gas fume evaporative control system. You could have a loose hose or possible a bad charcoal cannister. Youd want to check all the hoses going to and from the gas tank and charoal cannister for cracks, kinks, or just being loose. 446 is the cannister 440 is the tank. So its something around there. Also could be a loose hose on the air filter because hoses come from those things to it.
 
Good news: since its emissions related possibly it is still under warranty.
 
Good news: not likely to cause dammage if you run with it UNLESS your cannister is full of gas in which case that makes it a bomb. Easy to check that.
 
Good luck and let us know what you find out!

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