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PO by kneisl1
Nov 15, 2008 (6:09 am)
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Classic fuel cap not on properly or not sealing. If the fuel cap is good then its something in the evaporitive control system. Here is a list of things the bok says to check:
 
fuel cap incorrectly installed, fuel cap dammaged, vacuum hose dammaged loose, fuel tank cracked, charcoal cannister dammaged, open or short in vapor pressure circuit, vapor pressure sensor, fuel tank overfill check valve dammaged, ECM,
 
Basically you check the fuel cap and hope thats it. If not its something to do with the fuel evaporitive control system.
 
PO440 is the fuel cap. PO441 and 446 are the evap system.
 
Good News/Bad News: the GN is this is not something likely to affect the drivability of the engine or dammage the cat or something. (unless its the ECN of course...unlikely IMO) If you cant find and fix the problem you should be able to drive the car OK. Also, this is something the dealer should be able to fix as they see this a lot. The BN is the car probably wont pass an inspection as most states now check for error codes rather thsan test emissions.
  Good luck and tell us what you find out!
 
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Re: PO [kneisl1] by rep5858
Nov 15, 2008 (7:55 am)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Nov 15, 2008 6:09 am)

Ok I will. Thanks for your input. I'm glad it's not something serious, considering the high mileage.
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ECHO Birthday! by kneisl1
Nov 15, 2008 (10:58 am)
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Today my ECHO is EIGHT years old! Where does the time go huh? I celebrated by treating it to a car wash with the last coupon in my book. (10 washes for $50) 43,200 miles. At this rate in another 12 years it will have 106,000 miles on it!
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Re: ECHO Birthday! [kneisl1] by nippononly
Nov 15, 2008 (12:38 pm)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Nov 15, 2008 10:58 am)

My Echo's birthday just passed: 10-31-02. So it has turned 6. Everything is holding up very well, including the paint. I have never owned a car that was so inexpensive to operate. It still has never needed a repair.
 
And mine is already past 106,000. In fact, on Friday it turned over 108,200.
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Picture Of My ECHO (and the ECHO I bought for my son) by kneisl1
Nov 15, 2008 (12:46 pm)
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[IMG]http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk56/27461/moped002.jpg[/IMG]
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Re: Picture Of My ECHO (and the ECHO I bought for my son) [kneisl1] by nippononly
Nov 15, 2008 (9:21 pm)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Nov 15, 2008 12:46 pm)

That's cute! You make me want to have a whole little fleet of Echos! In the complex where I live, there are a total of 3 others, 1 green 4-door (I love that green, I wish I had searched around for a green one), 1 silver 4-door with the factory alloys (my how I envy those factory alloys!), and the only other stick shift, a black 2-door.
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Re: PO [kneisl1] by rep5858
Nov 16, 2008 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Nov 15, 2008 6:09 am)

While looking in the engine compartment, I noticed a hose leading the air cleaner box was disconnected. I put it back on and the CEL went off. I hope that's all it was.
And this happened right after I got an oil change. Coincidence? I don't know. I guess it could of came off by accident. But I'm not taking my car to that shop anymore.
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shop by kneisl1
Nov 16, 2008 (3:01 pm)
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Hmm really BAD garages add on repairs and play on your ignorance of your car to run up your bill. Once a Sears mechanic squirted oil on the shocks of my wifes one year old Camry and claimed they needed replacement RIGHT AWAY! When I told him the car was still under warranty his face fell a mile. So I doubt the shop caused the hose to come loose. Unlikely they would touch anything near there to change the oil. A loose hose is small potatoes...usually they go for a $2000 series of repairs!
   Just saying because if the garage has done right by you in the past it would be a shame to lose a good place to have your car fixed. Unless of course its Jiffy Lube or equal. Then I advise not going there!
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green by kneisl1
Nov 16, 2008 (3:07 pm)
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Yeah I like the green color too! An unusual color for ANY car and very striking. There was a green 2001 selling for $4995 with 85k on it about a week after I bought the silver one for my son. The guy was moving to Europe. I wish there was a local ECHO club. Id have them all changing their oil and checking their valve adjustments at 60k miles!

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