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#5461 of 5644 Re: OK [kneisl1] by marcu Oct 15, 2008 (5:17 pm)
Replying to: kneisl1 (Oct 09, 2008 4:59 pm) I've just driven home after being at the garage today. A brand new battery was installed, the air filter was changed and the mass sensor was checked as the wires were cleaned by the mechanic. There were no significant amount of dirt on them. We will see in the next weeks if the stalling still occurs or not. I am curious about the liquid to clean up the wires that you were planning to tell me ? what is it about? does that clean-up is limited to the wires or it is appropriate for other parts around?
#5462 of 5644 liquid by kneisl1 Oct 15, 2008 (5:38 pm)
Well if the wires were not dirty it wasnt necessary to clean them: in fact its a little risky to clean them because if you break them you need a brand new sensor! But you would use spray carb cleaner with maybe (maybe) a qtip if just spraying wouldnt clean it up. Thats the only thing I know to check in that area if you are having motor running problems that you could clean.    Good luck and tell us what happens! Replies to this message: marcu (Oct 22, 2008 7:09 pm)
#5463 of 5644 echo 2000 by bulbucv1381 Oct 15, 2008 (5:43 pm)
can someone help me on : a orange light on the dash is on for the last week it says check and i think is a engine image represented,what is the problem?
#5464 of 5644 check engine by kneisl1 Oct 15, 2008 (5:48 pm)
Thats your check engine light. A malfunction has occured and the computer has set an error code. There is a diagnostic connector under the dash in front of the driver. If you can get to an autozone they will plug in a scan gauge and read the code for free. Then you can tell me what it is and Ill look it up and we can take it from there. Sometimes a check engine light can be left alone but if a few certain things are bad you could do dammage to ther components driving around.
#5465 of 5644 Re: curve [kneisl1] by bammer59 Oct 18, 2008 (5:45 am)
Replying to: kneisl1 (Oct 08, 2008 7:27 pm) Do you bleed the clutch yourself on your Echo or get a mechanic to do it? I'd like to bleed it myself. I've bled brakes in the past and this shouldn't be that different.   Any suggestions?
#5466 of 5644 bleed by kneisl1 Oct 18, 2008 (10:59 am)
I try to do everything myself. Less $$$ and tricks thataway. The slave for the clutch is located just behind the radiator. You will see a bleeder bolt just like on a caliper or wheel cylinder. It takes an 8mm wrench. Its a little tight in there so I cut the wrench down to about 3 1/2 long. I put a rag over the bleeder bolt to catch the fluid expelled during bleeding. The clutch MC gets its fluid from the brake resevoir. So add fluid there if you bleed very much out.
#5467 of 5644 Re: liquid [kneisl1] by marcu Oct 22, 2008 (7:09 pm)
Replying to: kneisl1 (Oct 15, 2008 5:38 pm) I'm back with sad news. In spite of everything done (sparkplugs, air filter, new battery) the car stalled yesterday in the same conditions has before. At the time of the stall , the car was on NEUTRAL position therefore i am questionning the probability that air in the clutch would be the cause (i haven't bleed the clutch yet because the mechanic told me to look for something else before concluding in that direction) since it shouldn't make any difference if the clutch pedal is engaged or disengaged when the shifting gear is on neutral, don't you think? What is your opinion and advise for this troublesome problem of mine?
#5468 of 5644 clutch by kneisl1 Oct 22, 2008 (7:51 pm)
Yes I agree for get theutch. (although its goo practice maintenance wise to bleed it once a year)     Use your scan gauge to check for an error code again. Check all the fuses if you didnt already. If you dont have an error code set its pretty hard to imagine what is wrong. I will think some more. At least it doesnt seem to happen often? Replies to this message: marcu (Nov 04, 2008 6:28 pm)
#5469 of 5644 Re: clutch [kneisl1] by marcu Nov 04, 2008 (6:28 pm)
Replying to: kneisl1 (Oct 22, 2008 7:51 pm) Today, the car stalled again in the same conditions. Hopefullly i had the scan gauge under the seat of my car so I left the stall engine lights on and checked for any code. Badfully, there were no codes retrieved or stored in the car computer. I haven't checked the fuses until now but i will surely look at them in the next day. I've spoke of this stall problem to a mechanic who told me that the 200$ scan gauge I've bought doesn't do the entire checking that can be made by an expert mechanic equipped with a 10,000$ machine. At first sight it seems logical. Would you recommend me to sought for an "expert checking" of the electrical circuits IF the fuses are all O.K.?
#5470 of 5644 mechanic by kneisl1 Nov 05, 2008 (9:02 am)
Get RID of your mechanic. You have paid him $$$ of dollars and he has done NOTHING to help your cars problem. . He is lying when he says it takes tens of thousands of dollars of equipment to read the codes. Your code reader will read them all.    As to your problem. You seem to indicate that the stalling incidents occur weeks apart. Is that so? Also you see with your scan gauge there are no error codes in the computer. The fact that there are no codes indicates that while there may be a problem, it isnt going to cause dammage to the car. An ignored set code on the computer potentially COULD dammage the car. But you dont have that. So I would continue to post your efforts here and we will help you. Continue to live with the problem and hopefully something will occur to us. My 240D knocked on startup for years but otherwise ran fine. One day I changed the fuel injectors and POOF the knocking went away!

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