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#5451 of 5644 curve by kneisl1 Oct 08, 2008 (7:27 pm)
I forgot to ask you: how many miles on this car?      First thing to do is make sure the sparkplugs and air filter are OK. If the air filter is dirty and the plugs have the sharp edges of the center electrode worn off you need new ones. Probably not going to solve the problem but still needs to be done.    Another thing easy to check is the mass air sensor. Its located on top of the air filter housing, near the front of the car. There are two screws that hold it in and a electrical plug to disconnect. You remove it from the air filter housing, turn it upside down and look into it. There are fine wires located a few inches up inside it you can see. If these are clean its good. If they are dirty you need to clean them. If you break them while cleaning its $$$ for a new mass air sensor. If you Do find it dirty just put it back in and tell me and we'll talk about cleaning it. You dont have a K&N air filter do you? (which would be the likely cause of a dirty MAS.)    Finally its possible you have air in the clutch lines. The clutch of the ECHO is hydralically operated and just like brakes, if air gets in there it wont work properly. If the car is old you might take it to a dealer or mechanic you trust and have them bleed the clutch. If old sludgy dark brake fluid comes out of it could be the clutch isnt operating like it should. (ie you push the clutch in and it wont disengage) I bleed my clutch once a year to avoid problems! Replies to this message: marcu (Oct 09, 2008 5:13 am) marcu (Oct 09, 2008 4:24 pm) bammer59 (Oct 18, 2008 5:45 am)
#5452 of 5644 Re: curve [kneisl1] by marcu Oct 09, 2008 (5:13 am)
Replying to: kneisl1 (Oct 08, 2008 7:27 pm) the car (echo 2003) has presently 80,000km. I've bought it in 2007 with low millage (47500km) from a lady that was running the car very smoothly. The sparkplugs have been changed last spring and the air filter was checked and OK. I will check the mass air sensor today and try to come back to you before the end of the day . By the way what is a K&N air filter?
#5453 of 5644 KN by kneisl1 Oct 09, 2008 (12:34 pm)
Its a "high performance" filter which flows more air than the stock one. Its made of cotton and oiled to remove dirt. They are 95%efficient at removing dirt as opposed to the paper stock filter which is 99% efficient. The problem is the oil and gunk flow downstream to the fine wires on the mass air sensor cruding them up. A very bad idea to use on your ECHO!
#5454 of 5644 Re: curve [kneisl1] by marcu Oct 09, 2008 (4:24 pm)
Replying to: kneisl1 (Oct 08, 2008 7:27 pm) I'm driving my car at the garage next wednesday after the thanksgiving holiday to install a new battery and bleed the clutch, the mechanic will check the mass air sensor for the occasion and i will come back to you next wednesday evening.
#5455 of 5644 OK by kneisl1 Oct 09, 2008 (4:59 pm)
Good luck! BTW isnt it possible by carefull driving to keep the engine from conking out? Replies to this message: marcu (Oct 15, 2008 5:17 pm)
#5456 of 5644 will it make it? by bert9 Oct 12, 2008 (5:54 pm)
I have a 2001 Echo and need to make to southern cal from north carolina in as little as 4 days? Will it make it? Replies to this message: nippononly (Oct 12, 2008 9:10 pm)
#5457 of 5644 Re: will it make it? [bert9] by nippononly Oct 12, 2008 (9:10 pm)
Replying to: bert9 (Oct 12, 2008 5:54 pm) Mine's an '02 and I have no doubt mine would. I am at 106K miles, how many miles do you have on yours?
#5458 of 5644 nc by kneisl1 Oct 13, 2008 (8:19 am)
Yeah how many miles and is the cars maintenance up to date? The ECHO is a very capable car and would have no problem crossing the country in four days. Of course a 2001 is now eight years old so if it needed any work (brakes, shocks, muffler) you should have that done before leaving.
#5459 of 5644 Wiring headache? 2000 Echo by lisamarie537 Oct 14, 2008 (6:43 pm)
I recently discovered I had a blown fuse for my radio(cassette/cd/radio) which I think is also affecting my clock...I changed the fuse and it blew right away. so...does anyone know where to find a wiring schematic so I can try to fix this..I'm LOST without my radio...I'm guessing it's probably a short somewhere? Anyone have any information?
#5460 of 5644 wiring by kneisl1 Oct 14, 2008 (7:26 pm)
I have the SM but unfortunately it has no schematic in it (gotta buy that separate) Might not do you much good they are pretty hard to read these days. Look in your owners manual and see what else might be on the circuit for the radio. Perhaps that is the source of the short. (or maybe the info is on the fuse panel) Have you had any work done on the car lately that might have disturbed the wiring and pinched a wire. Like maybe a new heater core or something? Perhaps you can look behind the fuse panel where the fues for the radio is and figger out which wire goes from the fuse to the radio and trace the wire looking for a pinch/short. Or take the radio out and follow the wire that way. If you disconnect the power wire to the radio and put in a new fuse and it DOESNT blow, that would tell you the radio is bad. But without the radio hooked up if it DID blow you know its not the radio.    Really if all else fails I have to think the dealer should be able to fix this pretty quick. Look on ebay if you need another radion.    Good luck and tell us what happens!

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