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opinions by kneisl1
Aug 26, 2008 (7:02 am)
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As one who has lived in upstate NY for 25 winters I know where youre coming from! That old chestnut about antiseize on the wheel studs causing loose lug nuts needs to be put to rest! Driving on heavily salted roads can do those things to a car in a hurry. Really I would be removing and lubricating the wheels and brake parts once a year if I still lived there. At least Toyota uses acorn lug nuts instead of open ended nuts but even those are subject to seizure under those conditions. Throw in Neanderthal car mechanics overtightening the nuts and there you have it. You are wise to treat lugs with antiseize as soon as possible living where you do. Which reminds me about the trailer I just bought...
  But really the cure for stuck rims is loosen the lugs nuts on all four wheels a couple of turns and drive the car back and forth a few times. Youll hear the rims pop loose.
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Re: opinions [kneisl1] by highmiler650
Aug 26, 2008 (8:31 am)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Aug 26, 2008 7:02 am)

In December and until March I always use a dedicated set of wheels with winter tires (Snow). Changing wheels twice a year ensures proper tires in every season, proper rotation and ensures that I never have problems with rusted lug nuts or wheels.
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by dake
Aug 26, 2008 (11:40 am)
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Man, I've taken my last two Toyotas past 200k miles and I'm working on getting the Echo there and I've NEVER had the wheels seize to the hubs - and my first two 'Yotas were mid-eighties cars where everything but the tires rusts! My Celica spent two winters in northern Maine also, so it spent plenty of time surfing around rocker-panel deep in snow.
 
Just need to rotate your tires more than once a year!
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Echo 2003: troubleshooting engine stall by marcu
Oct 03, 2008 (11:41 am)
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Hello,
I would like to know if someone can guide me regarding an engine stall problem that occurs once upon a time when i am about to stop at a stop sign (engine speed below 30 mph). The problem is recurring but no technician was able to help me because he cannot reproduce the stall and it occurs seldomly.
 
I've checked that my left foot was throughly down on the clutch pedal while the right foot is on the break pedal. So there is no way that the stall is related to my driving habits. Can someone help, please ?
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stall by kneisl1
Oct 03, 2008 (2:40 pm)
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Did your mechanic check for error codes? If he cant take to car to AutoZone and they will read the codes for free. Then tell us what the coedes are and well go from there.
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Re: stall [kneisl1] by marcu
Oct 05, 2008 (4:38 pm)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Oct 03, 2008 2:40 pm)

I didn't ask to check for error codes because i was under the impression that the codes can be verified ONLY if by luck the car stalls while the mechanic is behind the steering wheel. Are you saying that a code procedure can be done even if the car appears to function well (doesn't stall now). If this is the case do you know if there is an AutoZone in the Montreal Area? Thank you for your help!
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error by kneisl1
Oct 06, 2008 (5:00 am)
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The computer detects something wrong and sets a code that stays in the memory until read/deleted/resolved. Yes your car can appear to run fine with an error code set and in fact usually does. Also, whatever is causing the problem might NOT set a code. But that is the first thing to check. I do not know if AZ is in the Montreal area but you should be able to look up AZ on the internet and see if they have one near you. In any case the codes have to be checked. A scan agauge is about $100 and its easy to use. Just folow the directions and plug it into the diagnostic plug under the dash in front of the driver.
   Good luck and if you have any qustions just ask!
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Re: error [kneisl1] by marcu
Oct 08, 2008 (2:04 pm)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Oct 06, 2008 5:00 am)

Hi, I've bought a digital OBD2 code tester ((innova 3100) at Canadian tire for 200$. Today, i've run the machine doing the tests. NO CODES were either stored or retrieve.
So what's up now? Thank you for assistance!
 
P.S. Knowing this, would it make any sense to keep the machine in the car so that the next time the problem occurs i could run the tests ON THE SPOT again OR it would be useless because no codes were obtained after testing it in the first place (not a code problem)
I've saw that there were more sophitiscated devices (more expensive too!) that would also verified OEM enhanced & transmission codes, enhanced SAE diagnostics (J1979 &2190), view and record enhanced OBD2 live data , and Mode 6 -02 sensor testing / mode 9 VIN identification. All those last features are not part of the device i've bought. Is is worthwhile?
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gauge by kneisl1
Oct 08, 2008 (3:27 pm)
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No you really want just a plain jane gauge. If after using it you can see your way to move up to more expensive tools you might consider it. But I dont think thats likely.
  Hmm no codes. Can you go through the symptoms again and maybe elaborate a little?
   If the gauge says no codes there are no codes its that simple. If a code is set it stays in the computer until erased. So theres no sense keeping it hooked up.
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Re: gauge [kneisl1] by marcu
Oct 08, 2008 (6:10 pm)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Oct 08, 2008 3:27 pm)

The problem occurs ALWAYS under the circumstances described below:
1- the clutch pedal in fully depressed
2- the shifting gear is most of the time in 3rd or neutral
3- the speedometer is slowing down around and/or between 20mph-30mph
4- the breaks are ON
5- the engine stalls before i reach the STOP sign with loss of stirring power
 
I am not able to confirm the exactitude of the next one:
6- the car at the moment of stalling was engaging in a right curve (often but not always).
 
 

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