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3 sentences by babyboomer
Jun 26, 2008 (3:33 am)
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Gas prices increasing, stock prices falling, and salaries staying the same. This triple whammy trend is changing our society and the world. One possible good result: goods are getting to be too expensive to ship from other counties so maybe jobs will starting returning.
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result by kneisl1
Jun 26, 2008 (7:33 am)
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Along with challanges come oppertunities. We need to recognize and exploit the oppertunities better than we failed to anticipate the coming problem.
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anyone here by nippononly
Jun 26, 2008 (7:54 am)
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thinking of trading their Echo for a new Yaris? If so, have you driven it yet? What did you think by comparison?
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yaris by kneisl1
Jun 26, 2008 (8:01 am)
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I might be giving my ECHO to my son and buying a Yaris for myself. Only problem: dealer says they can get base models and wants $15,000 (+ extras) to order one. I like the Yaris interior!
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kneisl1 by nippononly
Jun 26, 2008 (11:48 pm)
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I don't get it. You mean you want a base model and the dealer only has 'S's, or what? I am most surprised, here everything from the $10,995 base hatch to fully loaded 'S's are widely available. And while discounts off sticker are very small, some places will still do up to $500-1000 discounts despite the huge demand for these small models right now.
 
I like the hatch more than the sedan because the interior is nicer, but in typical infuriating Toyota fashion the hatch is the one they starve of options. Despite having the exact same powertrain and power package, the sedan gets optional cruise and the hatch doesn't. The sedan is easy to find with ABS, the hatch isn't. The sedan is getting easier to find with alloys and the power package, the hatch isn't (all the hatches I see get plastic wheel covers instead). When equipped with the power package with alloys and a stick shift, the 'S' hatch is a heck of a value, I think, at $13,7. I would add keyless and cruise though, so that would be $1000 extra that the dealer service department would get.
 
Not only is the hatch's interior better, but the pedals are more widely spaced. I find them too close together in the sedan. Apart from these minor foibles, I like the Yaris. I certainly prefer its looks to the Echo's, even though I think my Echo has an endearingly quirky quality to its exterior styling.
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base by kneisl1
Jun 27, 2008 (12:45 am)
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Not the situation at all here. No bases not even Yaris's on the lot. You have to order. None of the three dealers around me even has a single Yaris in stock.
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NO YARIS'S by moparblue2
Jun 27, 2008 (6:09 am)
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i don't no were you live. but you can go on line to toytoa.com & find yaris's all over the US. were you live they are just driveing the price up for more profit. i think this might be ellegal. i would check other dealers. i haved save a lot of money before just bye driveing 100 miles. dealers sevice dept. do not care were you bye. sevice is a big part of dealer income. wether warraty or oil change.
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Re: base [kneisl1] by nippononly
Jun 27, 2008 (9:22 am)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Jun 27, 2008 12:45 am)

Well, that IS a surprise. I have noticed that if you are willing to take a car with the convenience package, you will have an easier search. They seem to be building a lot more of those. I have also noticed that if you want a totally base car, it is easier to find hatches than sedans. I assume you would be interested in a sedan, eh?
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sedan by kneisl1
Jun 27, 2008 (1:54 pm)
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Well I have found the ECHO as a sedan to be not as inconvient as I first thought. And the Yaris hatch does not have all that much rear room with the rear seats up. The 2 door version of the ECHO has monster openings for doors that helps get things into the rear of the car with the seats down. I would probably want a hatchback all said and done though. But truth be told it would depend a lot on what deal I could get. Anything is possible given the right price. It DDOES appear though that my diesel ECHO dream is a dead duck, given the price of diesel fuel these days. Im thankfull I dont have a diesel ECHO!
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Re: sedan [kneisl1] by nippononly
Jun 27, 2008 (10:58 pm)
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Jun 27, 2008 1:54 pm)

Well, the next dealer over from me, perhaps 10 miles away, just took delivery of 5 base Yaris hatchbacks, zero options, two stick shift and 3 automatic. The zero-option ones are fairly easy to find around here: while they are selling quickly, there always seem to be more arriving on the truck to replace them.
 
Me, I would definitely want the convenience package just to get the bigger rims and a CD player. But I am torn between that and the full-on power package 'S' with alloys. They seem to be shipping those now with ABS as well. And a sticker of just under $16K, not bad.

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