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5646 messages, Last post on Dec 05, 2009 at 12:47 PM
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Superior offerings from Hyundai and Kia? Are you KIDDING me? The Pros are just about everything you could want in a car. Except of course the ECHO has no macho image to tell you you are the hottest thing on the road. I have to admit the ECHO is pretty much in your face if you value that sort of thing. If you are insecure in that area youll have a hard time rationalizing an ECHO.
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Replying to: kneisl1 (Mar 27, 2008 8:08 am) Yeah, the Echo's funny lookin', but like you said, if you get your self-worth from how your car looks, you've got bigger issues. I love the center-mounted instrument cluster, and I wonder why all cars aren't made that way - it's especially nice for night driving. The one fault in the Echo is it's high roof-line allows it to get blown about a bit on the highway, which could be disconcerting if you weren't ready for it. Beyond that, I love mine. |
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the echo I have just bought - 05 AT coupe..no AC or PS....seems to have better seals on windows,steers with distinctly less 'float' at interstate speeds than the '00 and'02 I had earlier.....paint is flawless - not even dings on the hood! Anyone have experience with both models to know if subtle changes or quality improvements were done in the last model year or two...or is all of this my imagination??!!?? 
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| As far as I know the only changes were sheet metal ones. That year ECHOs are much rarer I think they only sold 5000 or so the last year as opposed to 50,000 a year the first couple of years. | |
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Replying to: nippononly (Mar 25, 2008 9:06 am) Two reasons why I think Toyota is not selling them here: They make more money on the gas guzzlers( still) and the emissions may be a problem, although European governments focus more on emissions than mpg ?? Toyota is a master at manufacturing reliable fuel efficient cars around the world. I guess American car buyers are not interested in those attributes just vehicles that are mean looking , are fast and can intimidate other drivers. |
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| Bingo. Americans are not interested in such a car as the Aygo. That is the SOLE reason. Toyota went out on a limb with the ECHO and it failed in America. Now gas is $3.35 a gallon (diesel $4.24!) and going nowhere but UP! What would the price of oil be today if everyone bought an ECHO (or a car like it) in 2000? WAKE UP YOU BLOCKHEADS! | |
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Replying to: nippononly (Jul 25, 2007 12:02 pm) I often exceed 80, but average between 70 and 80. I just hit 150,000 miles on my Echo. Mine is a 2000. How can this car possibly achieve 40 miles per gallon??? I'm not being a jerk, I'm seriously interested! I get about 27 at this point. 27-30 at best.
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Replying to: meechity (Apr 21, 2008 11:06 am) And if you have an automatic, it has become apparent to me from reading here that the Echo autos do significantly worse for gas mileage than the stick shifts do. My long-term average is 41 mpg, an average which now covers about 40K miles. I obey speed limits, exceeding them only to pass. I don't execute jackrabbit starts, I keep the car tuned up and the tires inflated to Toyota's recommended pressure plus two psi. Apart from that I do nothing special. I am lucky in that I have a commute that rarely includes stop-and-go, and is only 5 miles long. Having owned the Echo for a few years now, I look around and am really disgusted at the lousy choices we have for new cars that are fuel-efficient. My Echo was designed to its spec more than eight years ago, and in that almost-decade no-one has been able to beat its fuel economy with a gas-only powertrain. In fact in California, I don't even have diesel choices, so that leaves me with just two to pick from: the Civic and Prius hybrids. And even they only average 5-7 points better than the Echo I already own, and cost twice what it did. I sure hope the next 8 years see a LOT more automakers taking fuel economy seriously. |
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| meechity I would have a compression check done on the engine. You can buy a gauge yourself just get one that will fit into the rather deep sparkplug wells on the ECHO engine. I have to believe you need a valve job on that engine. If not that, something is seriously wrong! | |
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Expensive Combustion = Hybrid Option?
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