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Toyota ECHO, Sedan
#5337 of 5820 Re: Snow [dephinusorca]
Jan 15, 2008 (8:43 am)
I kind of doubt you would find a 60K-mile 2004 Echo, at a Toyota dealer, with an extended warranty (not to mention the Echo in question, if it has ABS and power locks, is pretty much as fully loaded as an Echo could be), for 1/2 of $9000, which is $4500. I am in California though, where everything is more expensive, so my perspective may be skewed.
Toyota dealers charge a HECK of a lot for used Toyotas. They are the most expensive place, in fact, to buy a used Toyota.
Jan 15, 2008 (6:10 pm)
No, not at a dealer. But in a private sale, I see them for that in WA state, and that's what I paid for mine w 64k. It is not fully loaded (more like fully stripped), but it is mint. Seems like they arent very popular here either. It's rare enough to see one on the road I always notice it.
Jan 15, 2008 (6:25 pm)
Well, I believe it isnt necessarily more economical, but its not just like the echo when it comes to emissions. II got the echo because it is the greenest thing that fit within my budget. If I had the money to spare, I'd go with the Prius. It would be worth it to me, and I'll prob get one in a few years.
Jan 16, 2008 (6:00 am)
The ECHO is a great green choice if thats what appeals to you. What we really need is a car like the origional Honda Civic. (That got 50 mpg with no razmataz)Yes they have covered just about every angle they can think of with that Prius. Even when people realize they just spent $10,000 extra to save $2000 of gas they have the green thing. Any car can have a gas engine like the Prius and I believe theres one offered for the Focus. Then theres the buck rodgers dashboard with the overoptimistic mile-o-meter. I mean, how manipulated are you going to allow yourself to be?
#5341 of 5820 Re: prius [kneisl1]
Jan 16, 2008 (7:55 am)
I think delphin was referring to smog-forming emissions, where Prius definitely has the edge. The Echo was ULEV in its day (at least my '02 was: I haven't checked the more recent models, and it WOULD change in later years unless Toyota modified the car) while Prius was SULEV (PZEV in California) and still is.
I am not sure what this year's Yaris is rated for smog emissions. The Corolla is currently only LEV-rated, because it is an older model.
Anyway, the Yaris is not quite the bargain the Echo was in its day. Although it is close. (I like the Yaris hatch. )
Jan 16, 2008 (2:44 pm)
What do you mean its not quite the bargain? I saw a Yaris at the dealer for $12,500. My 01 ECHO was $13.1 bottom line.
#5343 of 5820 Re: bargain [kneisl1]
Jan 16, 2008 (4:11 pm)
Well, the Yaris hatchbacks are really good deals - hardly any more pricey than the Echo was, and with A/C standard to boot.
But the sedans' base price is $1000 higher, and they seem to mostly run about $14K - hardly pricey either, but more than an Echo was back in the day, and that day was only 4 or 5 years ago. I will bet your $13,100 Echo had A/C and the step-up stereo, eh? Not to mention the clock and rear defogger, items which are standard on the Yaris? Mine was almost the exact same price as yours when new.
Jan 16, 2008 (4:36 pm)
AC yes. 3 in 1 stero yes. (a great stero by the way!) PS. No clock. (and I wouldnt want it the little shelf is much more usefull!) RD. I just added the variable intermittent wiper switch from an 03 junkyard Corolla for $50.
Im amazed the price isnt A LOT higher now. Maybe I should bite my tounge!
The Yaris sedan is pretty big looking. Its only a matter of time before it gets the 1.8 litre Corolla engine.
#5345 of 5820 Re: hmm [kneisl1]
Jan 16, 2008 (6:28 pm)
I agree with you on the Yaris. The ECHO isn't the best looking car, but it's not too bad. I recently got some old '97 Camry wheel covers for my snow wheels and they dress the ECHO up very nicely. The five bolt holes are a little weird, but I need covers for the winter rims and these were free!
As for the stereo, I have the 3-in-1 with the dash tweeters and it is one of the best factory stereos out there. I finally got around to installing my aftermarket Panasonic MP3/CD player in there and it sounds quite a bit better than stock.
If only Toyota could put a 1.5L diesel is these little cars, then you would have something (thinking WV Polo-esque)
Jan 16, 2008 (6:32 pm)
I think they make a 1.3 liter diesel. Boy would that be sweet! Actually with diesel at $3.40 a gallon in NJ the gas ECHO still is doing pretty good!