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Toyota ECHO, Sedan
Jun 22, 2007 (7:44 am)
I towed a 2000 pouund boat and trailer with my 1980 Subaru Hatchback thousands of miles up and down hill. I had no problems. I never exceeded 40 mph and rarely went over 20 miles a tow. Ive towed a 500 pound boat with my ECHO doaens of times. No problem.
Toyota is probably concerned about some idiot towing a large boat 75 mpg over dirt roads. That would nt be a good idea!
Jun 22, 2007 (7:53 am)
Yes PO 500 is the vehiccle speed Sensor. They say check 1) conbination meter (I thik the speedo) 2) open or short in sensor circuit 3) sensor itself 4) ECM.
If you want to change it its under the air cleaer assy which you need to remove. Unbolt the old and bolt in the new. Theres an O ring that needs to be removed. Also, a simple snap ring that holds a shaft and drive gear to the sensor. You need to install the shaft/gear onto the new sensor. It looks easy. But note changing the sensor it #3 on the list so that might not fix it.
#5258 of 5822 Re: code [kneisl1]
Jun 23, 2007 (3:00 am)
Hey thanks for all the info so far:) Anyway, yeasterday I when I firat started driving the car's transmission started slipping, after a few blocks. This happened the first time the CEL came on. I figure it's a trans problem. Drove to a trans shop. He test drove it , but it did not slip. It seems after its warmed up the trans runs normal. He said 500 is not a trans code but an engine code. But trans slipping. I dont get it. Now its in the shop over the weekend., so he can drive it cold monday morning. Also he said solenoids could be bad. I just hope its not the trans. I drove the car 140 miles after the first slipping of trans and cel on.
Jun 23, 2007 (5:21 am)
Change the speed sensor! Check the wiring for shorts! It concievable that has something to do with the transmission.
#5260 of 5822 Re: cel [kneisl1]
Jun 23, 2007 (6:46 am)
Thanks . I just hope it's not the transmission itself. Thats about 2 grand to replace/rebuild.
Jun 23, 2007 (7:27 am)
Cheap compared to a new/nother car! Could be the control valve which looks easy to replace. If the car is in good shape otherwise its cost effective to fix if it gets you another four years driving.
#5262 of 5822 Re: $$$$$ [kneisl1]
Jun 28, 2007 (4:56 am)
Hi. The trans was slipping and CEL came on. Had it to my mechanic. He erased po500 code. Took it to lee myles transmissions. He said 500 code isnt transmission problem . Anyway since previuos mechanic erased the code the car's CEL would have to come on again, to be recheked by lee myles. It hasn't in 4 days now. Could it be the computer relearned itself? Before this light went on I drove with 2 passengers to NYC and back, all through Manhatten.
Jun 28, 2007 (7:11 am)
No I doubt the computer has fixed itself. The light will most likely come back on. The PO500 is a speed sensor problem. It DOES appear the speed sensor is bolted to the transmission. (it under the air cleaner housing) Its possible it could be affecting the transmission.
#5264 of 5822 Re: computer [kneisl1]
Jun 29, 2007 (6:17 am)
Should I replace this speed sensor now, or wait to the CEL comes on again? Can you do it yourself?
thanks, as always
Jul 02, 2007 (7:19 am)
I drove my 2001 Echo loaded with luggage almost the length of Georgia and back, a total of 473 miles and used only 10.583 gallons. That's about 9 hours of driving using cruise control on a fast traffic I-75 and the temps in the 90s required constant air conditioning. And I had stop-and- go traffic in Atlanta for about 30 minutes. This is the longest trip I have ever done in the Echo, which now has traveled 67,833 miles.
I was shocked that it gave me a terrific 44.69 mpg.