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Toyota ECHO, Sedan
#4641 of 5820 echo attitudes
Mar 29, 2005 (1:06 pm)
I've had my 2005 echo for 6 weeks now and am sure it was the right choice.
It's interesting the weird comments I have received from friends and co-workers about this car. Many consider it to be a piece of junk or ridiculously small. Some have wondered why I didn't spend more and get something better like a Ford or GM that is heavily discounted with incentives.
Then there are those who think it's a great choice and would consider an echo for their next vehicle. They usually own a Toyota or Honda already.
Mar 29, 2005 (1:34 pm)
Be sure to ask your friends how they like their gas guzzleing American cars when gas hits $3 a gallon this summer.
#4643 of 5820 GM vs Toyota Market Share in U.S.
Mar 30, 2005 (8:14 am)
GM and Ford are losing market share to Toyota and Honda. And the Japanese companies are smartly challenging the highly profitable truck sales that GM and Ford have dominated for years. A now deceased relative would not buy a car from Toyota or Honda for 30 years after he fought in the Pacific during WWII. Then he test drove a Toyota and looked at the ratings in CR magazine. He was impressed that Toyotas had fewer problems even after 3 years than GM or Ford vehicles. He never purchased from GM or Ford again. The Big Three better get better or they will see their market share in the states slide even more. A mechanic told me that the ECHO is one tough machine and would still perform well even after major abuse. Perhaps the goal of the American car makers should be to have mechanics say that about their products too.
Mar 30, 2005 (8:28 am)
I would buy American. But there is no comparable car like the ECHO made by US manufacturers. Also, I have been laid off twice by major American companies. When times got tough they solved their problem by showing me the door. Ask me if I feel guilty about buying Japanese.
#4645 of 5820 basic service manuals for Echo's
Mar 30, 2005 (10:48 am)
Dear All, Greetings. I am English & when I moved over here I was forced to buy a car - so I gladly went for the Echo as it was one of the smallest & most European styles I cld get.
My question is - can anyone help me in obtaining a basic maintenance manual for the car ( 01 2 Door manual 35k on the clock) - I have called Toyota & they quoted $117 to me . I am no expert & simply want to learn the basics ( waiting 4 hours for an oil change last Monday was the straw that broke the camels back ) - Thanks for any help in this area
#4646 of 5820 Domestic vs import
Mar 30, 2005 (10:49 am)
Domestic vs import labels don't even make sense anymore. Toyota has a plant in Cambridge, Ontario which builds models for the Canadian market. They have to be at least 60% Canadian content to escape import tarrifs. The Corolla built in Ontario is over 90% homegrown yet my brother's Pontiac Sunfire is made in Mexico and my dad's Grand Am has an engine made in China.
One of my co-workers was shocked to find her Chevrolet Optra is Korean built even though the dealer pushed buying GM vs the import "junk".
I think one of the biggest problems with the big 3 is too many models and divisions with too much overhead which forces them to cut costs by building engines,parts and cars in low labour countries.
Mar 30, 2005 (1:19 pm)
I have the official Toyota manual. Its very $$$ and very incomplete...no wiring diagram. I suggest getting a Haynes manual. Far less and probably as usefull. If you have any questions, I would be happy to look them up in my manua. But get a Haynes that will help you with oil, air, and sparkplug changes.
#4648 of 5820 Re: manual [kneisl1]
Mar 30, 2005 (5:55 pm)
CHeers,I was told by pepboys that Haynes didn't do a manual & I can't find one on the internet. The changes & a few others (transmisson etc ) are the ones that I would like to do.
Does the car share anything with other Toyota cars meaning that one can buy a manual for that car & use it on the Echo?
Mar 30, 2005 (6:31 pm)
I (and others) have done some verbal proceedures on this forum for these very things. You could search the forum for, say, oil change and read them.
#4650 of 5820 Re: maintenance [kneisl1]
Mar 31, 2005 (6:28 pm)
thanks , i have already printed off the one re airconditioning - just perplexed that there isn't a manual out there & wld have enjoyed reading one as I find them useful.