Last post on Dec 09, 2013 at 2:58 AM
You are in the Toyota Echo
What is this discussion about?
Toyota ECHO, Sedan
#4529 of 5822 Possible Purchase of 2003 Echo
Feb 15, 2005 (9:37 am)
I am looking to purchase an '03 Echo with 43,000 miles. I have been looking through the forum and noticing problems owners have had with this vehicle (have never owned a Toyota). Most seem to be for older models than the '03 but I am wondering if I should be hesitant with purchasing this vehicle? I worry about the cost of parts for Foriegn made vs. American made cars. Anyone with an '03 that has tons of miles that could give advice??
#4530 of 5822 Re: Possible Purchase of 2003 Echo [reba05]
Feb 16, 2005 (6:49 am)
If you look at JD Powers and Consumer Reports, Toyota is number one for long-term reliability (well, actually, Lexus is, but that is Toyota's luxury division). The Echo is listed as extremely reliable by Consumer Reports. (I know some people will say CR is wrong, or biased, or whatever, but try to find a better source of good data!) Remember that these forums attract the few people who do have problems, but seldom do you hear from the thousands who have no problems. The Echo is a great car, just be sure to get it checked out thoroughly. Even a Toyota can become a problem if the prior owner did not care for it properly.
The cost of repair parts? Not really much more, especially considering that with a Toyota you will not need nearly as many repair parts, compared to other brands. The cost of repair parts for Toyota and Honda has dropped considerably compared to the past. Other imports this may not be the case. Check out Edmunds Total Cost of ownership.
#4531 of 5822 Echo problems
Feb 16, 2005 (6:53 am)
Basically there are no problems with the ECHO for any year. The car has not been changed during its production life. If you want some excellent data and owner feed back on the ECHO see post 4528 aove and click on the url there.
#4532 of 5822 Re: Echo problems [kneisl1]
Feb 16, 2005 (2:12 pm)
I had a feeling I would get a good response! I have to admit that its been difficult finding used ECHOs in the Twin Cities area - not too many available so I felt that was a good thing, owners are keeping them long term!
Well as soon as I make my purchase I'll be back with an update!
#4533 of 5822 ECHO front end smash update
Feb 16, 2005 (4:10 pm)
I broke down and took the ECHO to an alignment shop a few weeks after bashing the front end against a curb. Although it was driving OK, on a rain slick road at 60 mph I nearly lost control of it after making a sudden lane change. I went to Schimps here in Camden which has been in business aligning front ends since 1929. If you want a modern shop with all the latest technology, forget it when going to Schimps. The shop is straight out of the 50s...maybe earlier. On the other hand they are artists at what they do. Car is good as new now. Steering is centered and the wheel returns by itself to straight ahead after a turn. HOORAY!!! (I was getting a little worried there for a while...)
#4534 of 5822 Reba05 Twin Cities?
Feb 16, 2005 (4:46 pm)
Are the Twin Cities you mention in Minnesota? I feel I must mention if you live there that MY echo is not the best car I have ever owned for driving in snow. In fact its pretty awefull. It has no traction especially going uphill in deep snow and it skitters around the road on hard packed. Perhaps others could relate their experiences with their ECHOs drving on snowy roads. I love my ECHO and I hate to burst your bubble, but thats the fact of the matter. Maybe someone else has had better luck.
#4535 of 5822 Re: Reba05 Twin Cities? [kneisl1]
Feb 16, 2005 (7:39 pm)
If you check the "Tirerack" ratings of the original tires, you will have the explanation. The OEM tires are just about the WORST tires you can fine for driving on snow. There is nothing wrong with the car - if you have proper rubber.
#4536 of 5822 Re: Reba05 Twin Cities? [kneisl1]
Feb 17, 2005 (2:59 pm)
I agree with the fact there is nothing wrong with the Echo in the snow. I purchased the cheapest "snow" tires at Wal Mart 4 years ago and use them every winter, for about 3 months. They are still good for at least another year and the car is very stable in snow and ice.
Of course if you drive at the same speed you drive in summer you are looking for trouble, regardless of what car you own.
#4537 of 5822 snow and ECHO
Feb 17, 2005 (5:10 pm)
What would listers say are good all season tires for driving in snow? The car will need new tires in a couple of years. It has the origional Potenzas on them now. Does anyone know of a cheap place to get rims for an ECHO? I dont imagine Id find any in a junkyard around here there not being that many ECHOs around.
#4538 of 5822 Re: snow and ECHO [kneisl1]
Feb 17, 2005 (5:29 pm)
I found that the Kumho Ecsta 716 HP4 is a good all-around tire and was able to handle 8" of snow (not real fast, but it made it through). They are very inexpensive also. Sears and Discount Tire (for two) carry them, but you might have to special-order your size. I put them on my Elantra in place of the original Michelins in November and have been very pleased with them.