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Toyota ECHO, Sedan
Mar 11, 2003 (6:05 am)
that's great about the mileage on your Echo - the best I ever got with my Corolla in the city was 34 mpg - which is pretty good - the worst was 27 mpg/city, most of the time I get 30-32 mpg city - if I were in the market for a new car today I think I would get a 2003 Echo - I think Toyota did an excellent job re-styling them, as with the new Corolla - the Prius was impressive, but I too was a little surprised that 41 mpg was the best it did on my 7 mile test drive - and the Prius would cost around $21K with the options I would want -
#3771 of 5820 Kneis...
Mar 11, 2003 (6:28 am)
Consumer Reports said the same thing about the Echo vs. Prius. The Echo is just as economical, not as complex, and alot cheaper. The only thing they didn't like about the car was its overall sparse interior feeling. With some new options like power windows and locks and sporty interior pieces available now, that point becomes sort of moot.
Mar 11, 2003 (6:33 am)
Like you Toyotagal I take test drives when I see an interesting car, but Im not really in the market for one. I liked the Prius very much, its like a super ECHO with upgraded interior which was very nicely finished. A beautiful car. I just dont think the hybrid concept makes any sense. I recently drove the Matrix which handled like a truck. It weighs like 3500 pounds (which the sedan approaches also) which is far too heavy to give good gas mileage. The salesman was flabergasted when he asked my opinion of the Matrix and I told him I was disappointed! I also recently looked at the Honda Element which I found to be in the same class as the Matrix. What I really want is a 1.3 liter diesel ECHO. And a brand new 1974 VW Beetle. And a brand new 1971 VW Bus.
#3773 of 5820 Kneis...
Mar 11, 2003 (6:39 am)
The Matrix handles satisfactorily when pushed, but it has hardly any power. I drove an automatic XR model, and was very disappointed in it. With the Prius, I hated the brakes. The dealer said they would feel different because of being part of the regenerative braking system. They made me feel like I was going to have an accident, so therefore no Prius.
I also have heard raised concerns about the environmental consciousness concerning the batteries that are in the hybrids. I hear they're not at all good for the environment, and no one thinks about that before purchasing one of these vehicles. In addition, replacement of these batteries will most definitely raise your operating costs. I think the best way to go is a diesel engine, but a 'good' diesel engine like they sell in Europe that's pretty environmentally friendly. I wish the US would get on the ball with their crappy diesel fuels and up to Europe's standards.
Mar 12, 2003 (1:32 am)
Just did a trip from LA to Palm Springs and back. Speeds were 65-70mph and a/c was on for one leg of the trip. Managed 40mpg for the first time! I usually go 80mph and average 36mpg. With gas going for $2.13/gallon here, I love my ECHO even more!
Mar 12, 2003 (6:10 am)
Now that gas prices are going up, Ive had several people ask me about my ECHO, if its as good a car as theyve heard it is. Im wondering if I should get a club for mine now...
Mar 12, 2003 (1:00 pm)
I currently reside in Germany. My profession has taken me here to Europe from Canada and I shipped my 00' Echo over here. My Echo has been great on the autobahn! The car likes to cruise at 140 to 160 kilometers per hour, yes 100 miles per hour and it handles fine. I can count on one hand the times crosswind has affected me, which is great considering I have to to deal with trucks and BMWs, Mercedes going at 200+ KPH. Speaking of that it is SWEET to pass some of those marvels of german engineering in my Toyota Echo!!! Love this vehicle, it is my third Toyota, I had a 96' Corolla and a 00'. Best car by far!
Mar 13, 2003 (6:40 am)
The was a Saab cruising in the fast lane of the NJTPK at 65 who would not let anyone pass him. He would speed up if you tried to pass on the right, which was dificult because traffic was heavy. Several people tried and failed, then it was my turn. When I saw an opening I just put my foot on the floor and left it there. He speeded up with me, and Im thinking "Man this is a good way to get a ticket! I must be going 90!" I looked down at the speedo and I was going 106. (Im not trying to top you reaper, Im just telling the story. You of course can go that fast any time you like!) The car was amazingly quiet at that speed and like you say it handled fine. Its a real little buzz bomb. I did get by the Saab. What a crank!