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Toyota ECHO, Sedan
Dec 17, 2002 (6:33 am)
I saw my first 2003 ECHO on the street last night. (Ive seen them in dealers lots, but covered with protective plastic stuff) Cant understand why they went to the expence of restyling it as there isnt much difference. The thing that stands out is the Toyota emblem on the front of the car. I like the origional style better IMHO. Im couldnt be more pleased with the changes as now my ECHO will look current to the uneducated eye at least until the next change.
Dec 17, 2002 (3:39 pm)
I believe I saw another new silver 2003 the other day turning into Best Buy. The black ECHO with those reflective tail lights looks really good.
Dec 19, 2002 (1:51 pm)
I just got my 60,000 service at the Toyota dealers for my 2000 Echo 5 speed. This is the first time I have had the car taken anywhere for service. I change my oil and filter every 6K and I did replace the air filter at about 35K. Once I added some coolant, as it had gotten below the mark. Anyway, the Echo runs as great as ever. The service report said I still had 70% left on the front brakes and 75% left on the rear. Overall I would say the car is not as quiet as when new, but still a fairly quiet vehicle. And I can sense more bump in the suspension when I go over poor road surfaces than before. Power is just as good as new, as best I can tell. I changed tires at about 40K, replacing the original 175/65 Potenza's with 185/60 Potenza model RE930i. These are really first rate tires, much better quality than the original Potenza's which I did not like. The sidewall of the tire says Traction A, Temperature A, and Treadwear 300. The big improvement for me is the terrific traction on wet roads which I did not have with the original tires. Sometime soon I should run another miles per gallon test, since I havent done that since my original testing when the car had less than 15K miles. I had gotten 42mpg over many fills at that time.
I really like and appreciate this car. We do have strong winds over here, and it does take some getting adjusted to deal with that, but it becomes a non-issue for us after that. We do not have any freeways or highways of 4 or more lanes to drive here. If I had to do a lot of high speed freeway driving I can see how I might look to a heavier car. But I love the agility and economy of this Echo. I would buy another without a doubt. And since my daughter now drives it, she has her learner's permit, maybe I will have to buy another in the future.
Dec 19, 2002 (5:13 pm)
Thnakyou for your post about your ECHOs milestone and congradulations. That was an interesting article to read. My 2001 ECHO has 13,964 miles on it because I just drive it 6 miles to work mostly and probably wont get anywhere near 60k for a while. (which isnt good because short trips wear out a car mechanically much faster.)
Dec 20, 2002 (5:23 am)
Now that your ECHO has 60k miles on it, every time you change your oil remember to check the four flexible boots on the drive axles that go from the transmission to the front wheels. Most likely you still have three or four years before they go, but when they do if you dont catch it right away youll need new axle shafts installed $500+?) as opposed to just replacing the boots themselves ($200?) I think their demise is most likely tied to age as opposed to miles, but keep an eye on them.
Dec 20, 2002 (1:43 pm)
That is a good thought about the boots. I will be sure to keep an eye on them. One other minor thing that came to mind is the tire rotation, switching front and back tires on the same side. About half way through the life of my original tires I did that, but havent done so on the replacement tires yet. Seems like I often hear about tire rotation, but I have seldom done that in the years I have driven various vehicles. And I have no memory of any problem from not rotating. Since more weight and hence more wear would occur on the front I can suppose that a well timed rotation will allow all 4 tires to wear out at about the same time. But that is about all.
#3640 of 5820 Graham...
Dec 20, 2002 (2:41 pm)
I thought you only switched tires like that anyway? Of course, I have to as mine are directional...
#3641 of 5820 wgraham
Dec 20, 2002 (4:47 pm)
Did you get your new tires at Costco?
Yes, Potenza RE930i's are very good tires for the price, especially with the Costco deal ($50 off with a purchase of 4).
#3642 of 5820 Costco was the place
Dec 21, 2002 (11:52 am)
Yes, I did get my tires at Costco, Kona, about a year ago I would guess. And the $50 off pricing was in effect at the time.
#3643 of 5820 rotating tires
Dec 21, 2002 (3:03 pm)
About all rotating your tires will do is make them wear out evenly. If you dont rotate the fronts will wear out before the rears. I dont know of any reason to rotate other than this. Maybe someone has heard of another benefit?