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Toyota ECHO, Sedan
#3110 of 5806 air filter / driving position
May 22, 2002 (9:53 pm)
micweb: I looked for a non-Toyota service manual for the ECHO earlier this year and came up empty. I posted about the air filter change awhile back; I hope this helps:
slugline Feb 10, 2002 11:18pm
Also, I am in agreement with kaz6 on the seating position. I do not drive an ECHO on a daily basis, but getting behind the wheel requires no significant adjustment because my daily driver is a CR-V, the design of which also best accomodates an upright driving position. Many CR-V reviews gripe about buslike steering angles as well.
geegee1958: Edmunds has mentioned center-mounted pods before:
Apparently, it's a cost-cutting move in subcompact car design, but if you do it in a $128K BMW roadster, it's OK. <GRIN>
May 23, 2002 (5:44 am)
The center instrument cluster on the Saturn ION looks like an ECHO clone -- also names of both cars are in all caps.
#3112 of 5806 gauge cluster
May 23, 2002 (11:17 am)
Does anyone know if there are aftermarket kits for the instrument pod? They have 3 different setups in europe for the Yaris...wish we could have one that is like the ION's!
#3113 of 5806 slugline, thanks for the air filter instructions
May 23, 2002 (2:53 pm)
I jumped to your old email. Great pic. The original filter does look "pleat deficient." I think I will change to a Purolator at 10,000 miles. I was thinking about a K&N but would rather use a tried and true paper filter, just change it more frequently for good breathing.
#3114 of 5806 7,500 miles for an air filter?
May 23, 2002 (3:32 pm)
This is an interesting webpage, from the Purolator page.
Purolator says that for each gallon of gas burned, typically 9,000 to 10,000 gallons of air have to go throught the air filter!
Therefore Purolator recommends replacement every 7,500 miles.
I don't think dire things will happen to an engine with 30,000 mile AIR filter changes, but I have performance concerns. I believe Toyota recommends 30,000 miles, except 15,000 miles in "severe" conditions. I want maximum performance out of my little 1.5 vvt-i engine - it is capable of it - so an air filter change more frequently is probably a cheap performance maintainer.
I think I will go with 10,000 mile air filter changes. On a "do it yourself" basis this is cheap and easy - not like changing spark plugs, anyway.
If anyone has experience with different brands, and pricings, let me know. Autozone wants $14.95 (!) for an "STP" air filter. WalMart doesn't carry Echo air filters from Fram.
May 23, 2002 (6:55 pm)
I had my '01 Corolla at the dealership this week for an oil change - I asked about changing the air filter because for my old '86 Honda it seemed like the good folks at Jiffy Lube were putting in a new one every 7000 miles (every other oil change) - the guy at Toyota said it's not needed until 30000K miles - are air filters that different from '86 models to '01 models? I think I'll have them check it at 15000 miles and see what they tell me -
#3116 of 5806 For britton2, I am sure that necessary maintainence and
May 23, 2002 (7:20 pm)
not unneeded work was the reason for the frequent air filter changes at Jiffy Lube. Sorry, never had much faith in those places and now I just try to go with a good delaer if at all possible.
May 24, 2002 (5:37 am)
agree - I plan on getting all of my maintenance done at the dealership where I bought my car.
May 27, 2002 (11:19 am)
This group has been silent for a couple days. Yesterday I went to the Borders bookstore and there were 3 of us Echos parked near each other, and one Prius. Always there appear one or more Echos in the bookstore parking lot. One reiteration for those who may be approaching the end of the original tire life. I am over 50k miles now and I replaced the 175/65 tires with 185/60, Bridgestone Potenza Unit-T tires. The Echo is much better on wet pavement, and I believe the overall handling is improved. I have sure taken it harder with confidence on familiar twisty roads. Also, I just replaced my wiper blades, with Napa stock blades. The long blade is slightly longer
than the original (I think the new is 22"), but it works fine.
#3119 of 5806 What about a 2003 ECHO?
May 27, 2002 (12:45 pm)
I keep hearing rumors, on this board and others, that the ECHO will not be built in the future. That the CAFE averages are high enough, with the Prius, and that the Yaris sales elsewhere are good enough to drop the U.S. version, our ECHO. Anyone heard anything definitive about the ECHO's future here?