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#1847 of 2062 service/repair manuals for 1997 s320 by wmalange Oct 04, 2006 (12:17 pm)
Anyone know where to find literature on working on these cars? I only have 50k miles on it and thins are starting to give me trouble (seat cushion bottom leather is only $2400 at the dealer!) Thank you. wmalangeyahoo.com
#1848 of 2062 press request by kirstie_h HOST Oct 12, 2006 (10:10 am)
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#1849 of 2062 Good Deal? by mickyl Oct 13, 2006 (8:17 pm)
I am about to buy a MB S550 brand new with the sticker price of $92,300, for $89,000. I am getting $3.3K discount off the MSRP. Good deal or no?   Any comments welcome. Replies to this message: mikespopworld (Oct 14, 2006 6:12 am)
#1850 of 2062 Re: Good Deal? [mickyl] by mikespopworld Oct 14, 2006 (6:12 am)
Replying to: mickyl (Oct 13, 2006 8:17 pm) Sounds "fair" to me at best. I 100% guarantee you that if you live in the ny/nj area you can shop that deal and easily beat it by 1k or 2k. If you are not beholden to some specific option package and don't need the rare option(night assist) or the exclusive option(amg package) I would advise you to shop around and if you are willing to go the extra mile, call out of state dealers like I did - there's hundreds of s550's available within a few hours drive from my house in nj - and i'd be willing to bet real money that 5k off a 90k-95k sticker car is a certainty within the first four dealers you call in your area - it's all up to you - be a tough negotiator, and all that takes is sticking with your offer and being willing to walk away and call the next guy.
#1851 of 2062 Good Deal? by mickyl Oct 14, 2006 (7:51 pm)
Thanks for your advice. In fact, I did call around quite a bit and found that there are about 100 MBs with the color combination that I want (i.e. black and black).   I shopped around and I think the shipping cost will add at least $1K on top of the negotiated price if I were to buy it out of state. But what really got me off a wrong foot was that there was someone (private seller) who tried to defraud me. For $2 to $3K difference, I don't really think it makes sense for me to take a risk on that.   So, I bought the S550 today at the price that I asked earlier.   Thanks for your comments, anyhow. Replies to this message: mikespopworld (Oct 15, 2006 6:57 am)
#1852 of 2062 Re: Good Deal? [mickyl] by mikespopworld Oct 15, 2006 (6:57 am)
Replying to: mickyl (Oct 14, 2006 7:51 pm) By settling for 3k off MSRP I'd have to say you defrauded yourself of 1k-2k or more in extra discount. Seems like whatever happened scared you into settling for the 3k discount without looking around. Would like to hear the full story. Anybody else reading this realize this is not typical. If you are not beholden to a specific color or option package and with the 4matics soon to hit the market, and hundreds of rear wheel drive S550's on lots everywhere, if you don't get at least 5k off MSRP on a RWD S550 here in the northeast I'd say you didn't negotiate hard enough. My first stop at Mercedes of Morristown NJ about two months ago, and without any negotiation, got me a 94.7k car offered to me at 90.3k, over 4k without even pushing - he would have done better - he said so himself, but I settled on a car with the rare night assist which supposedly was not discounted at all because of their rarity -and I got over 3k off of that car at Greenwich Mercedes in CT and did the deal with them because I wanted the rare option.
#1853 of 2062 Good Deal by mickyl Oct 15, 2006 (6:37 pm)
Thanks for your response. Before I tell you about this crazy scam that this guy tried to pull off, the car did have the option that I wanted, which was the night view assist, plus P2. There were two other s550s with night view assist around DC areas (with the color combination that I like) but one was loaded with everything and the other did not have much on it besides night view assist. I did search around before settling down on this and while there are vehicles in your area (and I am sure I can get a pretty good discount), the vehicles in your areas simply did not have the night view assist that I wanted, not to mention the cost of shipping, and hazzle of dealing with the seller if the vehicle did not meet my expectation.   Now, getting back to this scam, I came across this ad in the autotrader from this guy who was selling his fully loaded vehicle for $79K (got everything except night view). Got his contact info and spoke with him over the phone. I asked him for the specific details of the car, including any and all 0ptions of this vehicle. He emailed over 25 photos of this vehicle, including a photo that showed that the car was located in FL. However, this guy was calling from CA. So, I asked him for the VIN which you gave me. Did the carfax and the vehicle checked out. But, I still was a bit concerned so I asked him to send me a copy of his driver's license, car registration and title, so that I can verify the ownership. He said he would send it but I never saw it.   A few days later, I was checking out cars on ebay and found this identical vehicle, including all of the photos and VIN.   I realized then that I was talking to someone who tried to defraud me.   Now, he initially sounded like he was leery of internet transaction so he proposes to do the transaction via escrow.com. In fact, he said that he would register on escrow.com and then notify me to make the payment. I know that this guy probably has something on his sleeve. This guy is probably good enough to phish the escrow.com website and take the money that way.   For the difference of $1 to $2K, I wouldn't want to be penny wise and pound foolish. Replies to this message: mikespopworld (Oct 16, 2006 3:30 pm) gusb1 (Dec 05, 2006 10:56 pm)
#1854 of 2062 Any recent info on possibility of S450 for US please? by cannga Oct 15, 2006 (7:00 pm)
Posted this on another forum, would like to repeat the question here:   For those in the know, any recent news on this elusive model please? I already searched the forums; no one seemed to know for sure. Someone somewhere did mention October as the possible introduction date. If not October, what is the possible release date, if at all? Thanks in advance. Replies to this message: merc1 (Oct 15, 2006 8:20 pm)
#1855 of 2062 Re: Any recent info on possibility of S450 for US please? [cannga] by merc1 Oct 15, 2006 (8:20 pm)
Replying to: cannga (Oct 15, 2006 7:00 pm) Probably sometime next summer as a 2008 model. It definitely won't be here anytime this year.   M
#1856 of 2062 Re: Good Deal [mickyl] by mikespopworld Oct 16, 2006 (3:30 pm)
Replying to: mickyl (Oct 15, 2006 6:37 pm) Mickyl, that helps explain why you got only 3k off MRSP and not 5k. I too gave up better % off MSRP deals to get the night assist option which is pretty rare - most dealers at the time had only one car or none with the night assist, so I knew they had little reason to negotiate beyond a certain point. I was able to negotiate just over 3% off MSRP for the car with night assist that I did lease. I had a deal for the same car, same color, same options basically, but without night assist at another dealer that was close to 5% off MSRP - but once I found out there were night assist cars available I had to have one! As a follow up, I've had the car about two months now and driven about 1000 miles and never used the night assist except for a few minutes to test it out...it is pretty cool and does impress the friends, hahaha. Sorry to hear about the scam experience, but congrats on the new wheels - it's a freakin' rocket!

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