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Lexus ES 300/ES 330
5443 messages, Last post on Aug 14, 2010 at 9:21 AM
You are in the Lexus ES Forum.What is this discussion about? Lexus ES 300, Lexus ES 330, Sedan
#842 of 5443 Could this be the new ES 300? by s852
Apr 28, 2001 (12:32 pm)
http://www.mag-x.com/scoop/previs0104/01.jpg
It looks vaguely like a scaled down LS (as some have rumoured the new ES would look).
I don't know that it would be "real stupid" to buy a 2001 ES if you got one very heavily discounted. The new ES will probably be very hard to get in the first few months. This will mean they will be selling for sticker price. The price difference between a 2001 near invoice (or maybe below in some places) and a 2002 at full sticker will be significant.
I have heard you can get a 36 month/15K mi lease on 2001 ES with the Lexus Value Package for below $500 per month with zero cap reduction until April 30th if you lease through Lexus Financial.
So far, the only major differences other than new cosmetic styling and minimal power increase are, 5 speed automatic, optional navigation system and optional Mark L stereo as opposed to optional Nakamichi.
Buyers who choose not to order the navigation system are getting little of significance that they can't get on a 2001.
#843 of 5443 by coolmatt44
Apr 28, 2001 (2:28 pm)
If that is the new ES300, I doubt that any one would buy the GS300 one it comes out. Now I'm sure some of you are going to say the difference is that one is a luxury/sport and one is a luxury sedan. But I think any die hard sport sedan fans are getting beamers any way, not saying that it isn't the new ES300, or that they would cancel the GS300, but looks like the market segments are going to mesh with Lexus, and they will draw buyers from their own cars.#844 of 5443 New Camary/es300 by coolmatt44
Apr 28, 2001 (2:32 pm)
this is what the new ES300 will look more like, the previous photo was of the upcoming previs.#845 of 5443 2002 ES300 by s852
Apr 28, 2001 (3:26 pm)
No one knows for sure. You are assuming that the ES has to be styled to look similar to a Camry. There has been a lot of complaints about how the ES300 is a gussied up Camry even though each generation of the ES has been a little further away from the Camry than before.Maybe, to end the comparisons, Lexus may decide to suprise everyone and go to a different platform, like the Previs, that US buyers are not aware of.
The supposed Previs drawing does look a little like an LS (both Lexus LS*** and Lincoln LS) and people have speculated that the new ES might be made to look more like a scaled-down LS430, so it might fit.
I suppose Lexus could also drop the GS300 and keep the GS400 for people who want something a step up from the ES.
#846 of 5443 i finally figured it out by dardson1
Apr 28, 2001 (11:53 pm)
had a 2000 Solara XLEV6 with every option but tractions control. Loved the car and smooth as butta....but, hated the two door.....decided to trade it for either a 2001 Camry XLE or an ES300....knew both cars were mechanically very similar sharing many components....heard all the stories that they were the same car and the only difference being the Lexus had a few more bells and whistles. Truth is, Camry is a great car but the ES300 is a great car plus 10... a Camry on steroids. Everything that is very good on a Camry is terrific on the ES300 and more than worth the higher price. Love my new Lexus.#847 of 5443 Great Deal on ES300 Coach? by carbargain
Apr 29, 2001 (8:12 pm)
Just bought our first Lexus - ES300 Coach Edition, Black with Ivory interior. After much research on-line and price comparisons, we got the dealer to match the price at carsdirect.com of $29,996. We thought this was a great price considering the MSRP is $35,500++. The dealers are really trying to unload these cars right now. Any thoughts on the price?#848 of 5443 2002 ES300 by jamrock4
Apr 30, 2001 (10:34 am)
Just wanted to express my appreciation for those who posted the images of what the 2002 ES300 may look like. It amazes me that all the other automobile manufactures have formally displayed what their 2002 models will look like except for Toyota.Am curious as to why the Toyota Previs has a Lincoln LS grill? If the Toyota Previs is the new ES300 I hope surely hope they rework that grill.
As for the comment on whether the new look might inspire potential GS300 buyers to consider the new ES300. My thought on that is GS300 buyers are basically looking for a BMW alternative that is more reliable and comes with superior customer service. It is doubtful that they would substitute a front wheel drive ES for a GS. Just my 2 cents...
#849 of 5443 2002 ES by s852
Apr 30, 2001 (1:37 pm)
If the ES is taken upscale, the GS300 could easily be dropped. The people who really want a GS would then step up to the V8-powered GS430.If the 2002 ES is based on the Previs, then I think Lexus would still tweak the styling somewhat so it would not look exactly like a Previs. They would at least add a unique Lexus grill and tail lights. It was just a drawing. There is no gaurantee that even the Previs will look exactly like that drawing. However, it does fit the rumors of the ES having LS430-like looks and "rounder" lines.
#850 of 5443 carbargain by dardson1
Apr 30, 2001 (9:46 pm)
don't see how you coulda done much better#851 of 5443 yawn... by ecaf
Apr 30, 2001 (10:43 pm)
That new Previs (?) looks awfully boring and conservative. Please, Toyota. Don't let our sleek Windom/ES300 turn into a shrunken Celsior/LS430. Update the Windom, but keep it more aggressive than the Celsior. Throw in the NAV, offer a TRD supercharger, perhaps AWD to steal some Audi sales... We haven't gotten that old. Yet.To POST a message, please
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