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Lexus ES 300, Lexus ES 330, Sedan
#4759 of 5443 Re: 2006 ES 330 [captcumbac]
Feb 11, 2005 (5:48 pm)
I was told by the new car manager when asked about the 2006 ES330 that there was going to be no change. This is going to be like the 2005 GS300. They did not change anything but the year because of the early release of the 2006. This is what the manager said is going to be done to the ES330. He was expecting Lexus to release the new design for the 2007 ES350 around march\april of 2006. I have not heard this from anyone else but he said this was in info that is distributed to the managers and higher ups.
#4760 of 5443 Re: My 2005 ES [bikegal]
Feb 13, 2005 (8:11 am)
Just returned from a 540 mile trip in 24 hours. The car behaved wonderfully. No problem accelerating, etc. And I got the best gas mileage ever. Did 300 miles with 11.8 gallons, some of it in slow highway traffic.
I have 2,100 miles now. Looking forward to getting 29 mpg on the highway. Maybe after first oil change.
#4762 of 5443 is the ES330 2005 a good car for me to buy?
Feb 17, 2005 (6:29 pm)
we're thinking of buying a new 2005 car, a sedan. Is the ES330 just a glorified Camry or a truly better car? The '04 didn't rate well in JD Powers for "mechanical quality" & it didn't win their award. Has Lexus quality gone down in the last 2-3 years on the ES models? our friends own a C-class Mercedes & say they'll never buy another Mercedes; is Lexus going the way of the Mercedes in poor quality?
#4763 of 5443 Re: is the ES330 2005 a good car for me to buy? [maryd]
Feb 17, 2005 (8:09 pm)
I think that you will find the ES330 and the Camry to be substantially different, insofar as interior appointments and the driving experience. Keep in mind that the ES330 comes standard with moonroof and leather interior, which are extra in the Camry. An ES330 is not that much more expensive than a loaded (options) Camry.
IMHO, Lexus quality is excellent but there some drivability issues that have plagued the 2002-2005 model years. The problems of hesitation and transmission issues (shifting smoothness, delay, etc.) have been encountered by many. Some have learned to live with it, others can't. Only YOU can determine if the 2005 ES330 drivability is acceptable. Reportedly, Lexus is addressing the complaints with a totally new throttle control system in future (spring 2006 availability) cars.
Personally, I can't live with the hesitation and transmission characteristics of the 2005 ES330 and will either wait for the improved car or buy something else. FYI, I drove a new GS300 today which has a new 6-speed tranny and throttle control system and the driving experience was flawless!
Good luck with your decision.
#4764 of 5443 Re: New 2005 ES330 - Transmission Fixed? [mrdlexus]
Feb 17, 2005 (9:53 pm)
Talked to a Lexus salesman today who said that every 2005 ES330 that he has driven exhibits the hesitation problem. He went on to say that the 2006 ES will have a totally new throttle control system that will eliminate the problem for once and for all.
Obviously, some people are more sensitive to the problem than others. Personally, the condition is unacceptable to me. My wife's '98 ES300 has NO hesitation and upshifts/downshifts are flawless. It almost seems if pre-2002 ESs are the ones with the advanced technology!
FYI, drove the new 2006 GS300 today and this is one nice automobile.... 6-speed tranny and new throttle control system to go with the new V6 engine. I dare not let the wife drive one!
#4765 of 5443 Returning my leased ES 300.
Feb 18, 2005 (5:00 pm)
My lease is up on my 2002 ES 300, so I am returning soon and buying my mother's 2003 ES 300 from her. The leased 2002 that I am returning has the factory chrome wheels on it. The car originally didnt come with chrome wheels, but I had the dealer install them and factor them in monthly payment. Nowhere on the lease contract or the window sticker does it show the car has chrome wheels on it. So my question is, if I swap the chrome wheels out with non-chrome one, and I return the car with the factory non-chrome wheels, will lexus financial services or the dealership know or even care? I would appreciate any help.
#4766 of 5443 Re: Returning my leased ES 300. [reservecab]
Feb 18, 2005 (7:15 pm)
I think you will find that the Service Department records ALL services (no matter how minor) by VIN in a database. You can try returning the car w/o the chrome wheels, but I'll bet even money that the dealership will discover the discrepancy.
#4767 of 5443 Re: New 2005 ES330 - Transmission Fixed? [turnbowm]
Feb 20, 2005 (10:35 am)
I have a 2005 ES with 2,500 miles. So far, no hesitation unless I am driving between 1-5 miles and it's not consistent.
And yes, I can live with that.
As far as the difference between a Camry and a Lexus, I've had both. The Lexus is better.
#4768 of 5443 Re: New 2005 ES330 - Transmission Fixed? [bikegal]
Feb 20, 2005 (11:29 am)
Hi bikegal. I would like you to tell us why the Lexus is better. Forget the Lexus dealership, etc. and just concentrate on why the Lexus car is better than the Camry. I would like to hear your answer. Thanks in advance.