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Lexus ES 300, Lexus ES 330, Sedan
Apr 02, 2002 (3:04 pm)
While sales numbers do not mean much to a person buying a car, and many factors affect sales (such as production rates), it is interesting to note how well the new ES 300 is selling. The numbers for March, along with some other similarly-priced cars:
6440 - Lexus ES 300
5918 - Acura TL
5831 - Mercedes C-Class (includes wagons and coupes)
5460 - BMW 3-Series (sedans only; 325i/325xi/330i/330xi)
4037 - Audi A4
2730 - Infiniti I35
2147 - Infiniti G35 (on sale as of 3/11)
2003 - Audi A6
The buying public seems to really like the ES 300.
Apr 02, 2002 (7:20 pm)
First, thanks lenscap and kreativ for your comments. I have test driven both the G-35 and Lexus extensively and every time I come out enjoying the Lexus. So today I went to my local dealer to "deal" and I wanted to order the Blue Onyx Pearl with light charcoal interior. They said they can get black or ivory leather but they still have someone waiting over 6 months for a blue with the light charcoal. What gives here? Has anyone received a blue onyx with light charcoal? I do want one loaded with Nav and ML sound and they did offer to give me $3K off sticker but they said they just are not getting any in stock with the light charcoal and blue ext. Your thoughts please. Thanks.
Apr 02, 2002 (10:58 pm)
Your post sounds exactly like my experience....even the same color!!! I did get the rear shade, though.
Unlike some people that have sought out units without the NAV, I insisted on it. Not only is it a cool conversation piece but it has actually found destinations for us that we may still be looking for..j/k!!!
Except for a few minor annoyances, the wife and I still enjoy the ES.
Glad you like yours.
Apr 03, 2002 (12:31 am)
Is the ABS "clunk" still getting on your nerves?
Apr 03, 2002 (6:48 am)
The reason the dealer is telling you a six month wait is that is based on the cars he expects to be in his allocation.
If the blue/grey combo is rare, what you need to do is special order your car. The order is customized the way you want and sent to the zone manager and then on to Japan. The car is made specifically for you and put into your dealer's allocation. The dealer will ask for either a $500 or $1000 deposit.
I did this with my car because I wanted the AVS and they do not make that option available in my area. The process takes anywhere from 90-120 days. I got my car in about 100 days.
Hope this helps. Good luck.
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Apr 03, 2002 (6:51 am)
Hi, I have a 2001 Lexus ES300 and I noticed that when I drive for long periods of time and then I brake there is somewhat of a grinding sound, my friend has a 2001 GS 300 and his brakes are the same way....they grind...dealer said that it was "normal" ....anyone else experience this??
Apr 03, 2002 (10:42 am)
Kevin, yea, it bothers me. I also complained about a "slight" wind noise at the B pillar. The tech says it's normal and I'll concede since the car is so quiet otherwise it may just be that I notice the little things.
When we got the 5000 mile service I distinctly told the appointment setter that I had the recalls. When I got there, the service writer had no clue and said they'd have to order the parts.
No big deal waiting for oil change but now I'll have to come back again.... THEN she finds the recall parts but has no courtesy car. I'm waiting over 2 hours...but at least it's done.
Right now I have a slight shimmy when braking hard.......My only guess is overtorqued wheels from the last service which included the tire rotation.
I think the main difference in Lexus ownership is the treatment and attitude of the personal. It is above reproach ...so far.
I was going to e-mail you, but while I got you here and you are the paint care guru....neighbors tree sapped the car!!! We've washed it numerous times and have tried prying off the hard stuff with fingernails but there's just too many "spots"
also tried the sap/bug remover to no avail. Any suggestions.
If anyone cares, I've been running mid-grade lately and cannot tell any seat of the pants performance difference.
Apr 03, 2002 (1:26 pm)
Jack, I agree that the quietness of the car tends to exaggerate small noises. Right now, a ticking noise coming from somewhere left of the steering wheel when driving is really annoying me.
I'd find another service writer the next time you go and in the future. She doesn't sound like she has things under control. But I'm under the impression that you have enough mechanical skills to not have to go back to a Lexus dealer and pay their rip-off service prices.
I'm a little surprised a Lexus service center overtorqued your wheel bolts. Around here, they charge $40-50 for just a tire rotation. You'd think if they did one thing right, it'd be correctly torquing the wheel bolts. If you have a torque wrench handy, torque them to 76 ft-lb.
Mineral spirits or denatured alcohol works quite well to break up and dissolve the sap spots, when commercial sap/bug removers aren't effective. Hardened sap can scratch your paint, so be careful. Hand-rubbing the sap spots with mineral spirits or denatured alcohol should allow you to remove the sap without damaging the finish. If there is a large amount of sap on the car or the sap's been left sitting on the car for a long time, it can be a lot of work to remove.
After you're done, spot-wax the areas. Or if you haven't waxed the car yet, go with one of the polymer sealants such as Klasse. A two-step application should give you almost a year of protection, vs. a couple months with traditional waxes.
Apr 03, 2002 (2:57 pm)
I used Zaino Bros on my car last weekend. After some rain and parking under a tree with sap, I can tell you everything just seems to glide right off. It's my first experience with the product but it seems to be far better than the Zymol I used on my previous Lexus.
kreativ, have you ever used Zaino?
Apr 03, 2002 (3:19 pm)
Zaino is good too. Klasse and Zaino are both polymer sealants, which means they'll provide better and longer protection than traditional waxes. It's really a toss up as to which one you go with, and some tend to think one or the other gives certain car colors a better look. Most important is in how you apply it. Following the directions on the Zaino web site whether you use Zaino or Klasse will get you the best results. For Klasse, you would ignore the Zaino-specific directions such as the use of Z-1 as a pre-spray. All the general advice applies, except for the part about washing the car with Dawn detergent to remove previous waxes (polymer sealant needs to bond with the paint surface). Alkaline products such as Dawn harm the plasticizers in the clear coat if used excessively, which will lead to a dull-looking finish. If you use the Klasse 2-step system, the 1st step has non-abrasive cleaners that removes any previous wax on the finish, thus negating the need for a Dawn wash. I tend to think of Klasse as the simpler of the two to use.
Many detailers think of Zymol as overpriced junk.
If you have a beater car that hasn't had a properly maintained finish, try NuFinish. It's also a polymer sealant, and is pretty abrasive so it'd clean the paint on a beater car quite well. I wouldn't use this product on a new Lexus or one that has had the finish well maintained.