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Lexus ES 300, Lexus ES 330, Sedan
Mar 13, 2002 (9:10 pm)
Twice this week I test drove the new Infiniti G-35. It is a great car. Very fast and very comfortable. You do feel like your are driving a sports sedan, which you are. Along with that however, goes a harsher ride which at this stage in my life, is not what I wanted. Immediately after the G-35 test, I went and test drove the 2002 ES 300 which I loved. It was smooth, quiet and very comfortable absorbing all road imperfections effortlessly. Not fast, but adequate. It was just a pleasure to drive and I like the looks as did my wife.
While I see the G-35 as a great car, it appeals to a different market than those looking at the ES 300. Both cars I expect will be very reliable but the ES's interior is richer looking and more appealing to my tastes. At 50, the ES features and qualities appeal to me. Ten years ago, I would be a G-35 buyer.
In any event, you can't go wrong with either car.
I was interested in the Blue Onyx and the Starlight Pearl and would like to know how people like the Starlight Pearl. The latter looks like silver with pearl in it...is that correct? I think I may have seen one but am not sure. Am moving from the midwest to S. Calif. this summer and may wait until then to buy. What kind of deals are you all getting from LA area dealers and what dealer is giving the best deal. Thanks.
Mar 13, 2002 (10:31 pm)
Thanks for the G35 vs ES comparison. I think the G35 would attract far more would-be IS buyers than ES buyers. I'd buy a G35 over an IS.
You'll get a better price if you wait until moving to S. Calif (where to?) before buying. Prices will be cheaper by summer, and thanks to a dozen or so Lexus dealers in the area, competition is strong and you'll get the best deal in SoCal.
$1000 over invoice has been had by a couple forum visitors buying in SoCal. They purchased (or at least finalized the deal) last November/December. If CarsDirect pricing is any indication of ES price trends in So Cal, prices continually dropped until last December. Then, it went up in January and has stayed stagnant since. If I were you, I'd shoot for paying no more than $1000 over invoice. And deal exclusively over the Internet with each of the dealers first. Keep the mentality that Lexus salesman are no more honest/dishonest than any other car salesman. I've run into some scumbag fleet and sales managers at a couple Lexus dealers.
Previous posts here have mentioned that Starlight Pearl has been discontinued, and that the color is anything from a baby blue to silver depending on lighting conditions.
#2313 of 5443 Starlight Pearl
Mar 14, 2002 (6:22 am)
Ahh, a truly unique bit of the paint technician's art. Seriously folks. I've had my Starlight Pearl 02 for 30 days now and have had a compliment almost every day (no I don't just drive it by my family!) In bright sunlight, it is a pale baby blue with some silver in it. In the shade it is silver and on a cloudy day it is a very light silver gray. The pearl paint process gives a depth to the paint that allows the different pigment elements to reflect differently in direct, indirect and flat light. Also, my salesman showed me the manufacturing reports for the South west region and there are very few Starlight Pearls being made each month -- so you have a unique color.
Mar 14, 2002 (4:45 pm)
Excellent commentary. I feel the same way. We have a 100MPH boat, offroad toys and we still have the Cobra for the occasional blasts. The ES is an anti-BMW if you will. Don't have to pretend you're a boy racer, don't have anything to prove to anyone. Just a quiet, refined get away. Sometimes priorities change or are different from the start. The ES isolates. Sometimes that's what we want.
I think from now on we will always have at least one car the pampers us.
#2315 of 5443 ES300/Camry
Mar 14, 2002 (6:52 pm)
A few weeks ago, a brand new Camry parked near my brand new ES. I admit, I was very pleased to see how different they look. My Lexus has fine, beautiful lines and smooth, flowing curves. More like a piece of art than a car (okay, I bought into the commercial).
Hungrywhale drives a Hyundai.
#2316 of 5443 Kreativ/Lexus1/Modvptnl
Mar 14, 2002 (7:58 pm)
Kreativ-Thanks for your guidance on pricing. I will take that into consideration when negotiating. And I agree with you that the G-35 is best compared to the IS 300 but I have not test driven the IS and do not plan to. Expect to move to LA area (most likely Hollywood Hills--used to live in Woodland Hills) sometime this summer.
Lexus1-Thanks to you too for your wonderful description on Starlight Pearl. Lexus has done a wonderful job in selecting paint colors that are unique.
Modvptnl- You have a toy I have coveted for years--the Cobra. Had a friend in college that had one on campus some many years ago....and have enjoyed that vehicle ever since. Is it as fun to drive as it appears and sounds??
Mar 14, 2002 (10:49 pm)
It's a blast and I only put a couple hundred miles a month on it now. Since it's been totally repainted I can't bear to subject it to the gravel pits we call freeways.
It's a mint '97 that has a Borla cat back system on it and the DOHC V8's 305 horses sound bitchen' at 7000 RPM.
The car is sideways most of the time when I take it out.
Alas, all good things must come to an end. I'm about to close a deal on a 1/2 acre of land with an incredible view of the strip. The guys giving me 16K for the car. BUT HE'LL BE MY NEIGHBOR so I can still be close to my baby!!!!
#2318 of 5443 To: lexus1 Starlight Pearl
Mar 16, 2002 (5:31 pm)
I also got the 2002 ES in Starlight Pearl and I think that Lexus anticipated that the color was not going to be popular. My understanding is that it is not being made on the east coast at all as lexus reps thought the color would not sell. I think it i a great color because of the changes in the amount of light. By the way, I tried Meguiars wax on mine today and it gives the color quite a gleaming look.
Mar 18, 2002 (11:22 am)
Does anybody know what the small clear plastic strips are for on the outside of the car? They are at the bottom of the rear doors, between the door and wheel well, and are about 3-4" tall.
My salesman didn't know why they are there but told me to leave them.
#2320 of 5443 clear plastic strips on the rear doors
Mar 18, 2002 (12:14 pm)
I think those plastic strips are just for protection of your rear door edges when you open your doors. You can buy after market products to do the same thing, but the clear one looks much better.