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You are in the Lexus ES
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Lexus ES 300, Lexus ES 330, Sedan
Mar 07, 2002 (11:34 am)
The price on the ES 300 is very good. Most dealers around me are giving $500 off max.
I personally prefer the Lexus over the BMW for these reasons:
1. Reliability is better with the Lexus.
2. Size; the BMW is too small for my liking (and may be a safety issue with a baby).
3. Interior is much nicer and more upscale in the Lexus.
4. Dealer service much better with Lexus (my girlfriend's father has a 2001 740iL and the dealer is awful although I realize this varies).
5. Lexus is a brand new design; the BMW is in its fourth year.
If it means anything, I'm 34 and bought my 1995 ES 300 when I was 27. Two of my friends also have ESs. The BMW is nice, don't get me wrong. I thought briefly about getting a 330i before buying my 2002. But the ES is just so much more car for the money in my opinion.
#2268 of 5443 lenscap
Mar 07, 2002 (11:45 am)
thanks for the info. you got a VERY good price for the 95. curious, how many miles you had on the 95.
#2269 of 5443 rtorreca: on quote
Mar 07, 2002 (1:11 pm)
Based on the MSRP of $36,355, I believe the quote not only include premium package, but also Xenon light, VSC, wooden steeling wheel, heated seat, truck mat and wheel lock. If that is the case, then $34,358 quote, off $1,997 from MSRP is a good price. we got $1,500 from VA's dealer one month ago and now we are proud owner of a Mystic Sea exterior ES300. (Our 1st choice was Starlight Blue which was out of production after January's shipment).
#2270 of 5443 BMW 325 or Lexus ES
Mar 07, 2002 (1:11 pm)
I also thought about getting either a BMW 325i (since I live in CA, I don't need to worry about snow. I lived in NJ for 10 years, I knew what it looks like to drive in a snowy day.), 525i, or Lexus ES300. I test drive the 525i & the ES, and a test drive back in 1999 when the new 3 was just out on the market. I really like the handling of the BMWs, but you cannot beat the quietness and luxury of the Lexus.
I also has one kid so the 325 is probably too small for us, especially the truck of the 325. The 525 will cost more to have the same options as Lexus. Since I got a VERY good deal for a fully loaded ES, I will live with the dream of driving the BMW.
By the way, I think the BMW 3 is not at the same quality level of 5 series.
Mar 07, 2002 (2:55 pm)
My 1995 ES 300 had 40,000 miles. It was black/black and was in great shape. Always serviced and never in an accident (although I had the rear bumper and driver's door repainted several years ago because a careless landscaper put huge scratches in those two places).
I hope my 2002 is as good as the 95 was.
#2272 of 5443 Instant gas mileage display
Mar 08, 2002 (11:22 am)
The on-board computer display of instant gass mileage on my 02 es300 (with less than 1k on it) seems to jump around wildly, and then after a few seconds settles down on 99.9 mpg when cruising on the highway. Anyone else notice the same thing? I know this is probably the least usefull info, but still wonder if there's something wrong.
Mar 08, 2002 (11:25 am)
You think an ES300 is more car for the money than a BMW 330i that costs about the same $?
Man, you need to have your head checked. You may have a tumor.
#2274 of 5443 Front license plate
Mar 08, 2002 (1:22 pm)
Thanks for the tips, I especially like not putting holes in the bumpers. Okay, I've never looked at the front (or rear) frame, and it's been a long time since I had to install any plates, so I'll just ask the question: is the bracket not already on the frame?
#2276 of 5443 mpg display
Mar 08, 2002 (1:32 pm)
ruggedland, I've noticed that too. Usually mine displays about 78mpg; it's updated every several seconds (exact no. of seconds in the manual). I guess we'd have to ask the programmer to find out exactly what data is being used for input. Mine usually finds a more accurate reading, ie 19mpg.
btw, auto manufacturers have developed prototypes that could get 70mpg, but the President nixed it in favor of hydrogen.