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Lexus ES 300, Lexus ES 330, Sedan
#2135 of 5443 need help with brakes on my 94 ES 300
Feb 08, 2002 (12:11 pm)
Well my mom just received her new 2002 ES 300 (mystic sea opal/ivory)
and I bought her 1994 ES 300 for my wife. It had only 30,000 miles on it
and not a scratch, always Lexus dealer maintained. Well now that me wife
drives it, she seems to feel that the brakes could be more responsive and
less play in the pedal feel. I've driven it and seem to feel there is some lack
of responsiveness when it comes to the pedal.
Anyone out there know of any up-grades to a 94 ES's braking system.
Does Lexus offer different brake pads or rotors to it's car line? It just had it's
30K service in which they flushed out and replaced the brake fluid. Any
ideas if that might be causing the brake pedal play (approx. 2-3 inches
before any reaction to the brakes). Does it sound like it needs new pads or
is there an upgrade fix.
Any help or advise would be appreciated, thanks.
Feb 08, 2002 (2:51 pm)
You insinuate that if the ES gets well below EPA estimates that the competition will, too.
Sadly for you, that's not the case...
Feb 08, 2002 (3:40 pm)
Dude, he was just referring to the Consumer Reports article. He has no personal stake in an '02ES. I don't think he really cares about how your GF's I30 stacks up to the ES.
If you want a more entertaining argument, tell hk2la her '02ES sucks. Now that'll be interesting. =)
#2139 of 5443 PR request
Feb 08, 2002 (3:42 pm)
A major newspaper is looking to interview folks who learned how to drive stick in their adulthood, and either fell in love or hated it. Also welcome is any input on why people love to drive stick, and any unusual anecdotes about how you learned etc.
Hope to hear from you before Feb 22 via the Talk to the Press discussion or at jfallonedmunds.com with your thoughts and contact information.
Thanks as always,
PR Director, Edmunds.com
#2140 of 5443 I don't think the new ES 'sucks'
Feb 08, 2002 (4:18 pm)
But I think it's terribly overpriced vs. the competition.
Feb 08, 2002 (4:21 pm)
thanks amigo. I thought maybe I wasn't making myself clear, so I kept restating my argument, but apparently I was, thanks for the confirmation.
on to more interesting ES arguments.
#2142 of 5443 WOW!!!!!
Feb 08, 2002 (5:24 pm)
This is all very interesting... I'm getting 21 mpg, mostly in the city. Maybe it's not that important to me . I just like the car . It's not a sports car ,but an entry level luxury car and it's all of that. It's dependability is outstanding and also great resale from what I've seen from past Lexus's. I have 1600 miles on the car now. I think it is real smooth and pretty quite. I'm sorry , but the Infinity does not compare in my book. Not nearly as quite. It is cheaper tho. I kinda like that L in my Lexus. I love to read this site. Everyone has an opinion and thats how it should be. If you do have complaints about your car , you should definately tell Lexus . That's the only way things will change. If WE don't tell them about our concerns they will never know. I recieved a survey from them the other day and told them I thought they should have made more cars that offered the upgrade to the ML without the nav. instead of having to special order them. Well have a good day and keep me smiling.......mike
Feb 09, 2002 (8:02 am)
Okay, I now have 750 miles on her, latest mileage info: average speed 50.4 mph, avg mileage 25.5 mpg. The best I've been able to get is about 26.7 doing about 65 mph. I think this is very good. Love the ride and looks. my 99 I30 avgs about 25 mpg in same driving conditions, although the I30 will get an honest 30mpg on road trips, non stop doing 75 mph with ac on. No buyers remorse here, I love the Lexus.
#2144 of 5443 I35 vs. ES300
Feb 09, 2002 (12:37 pm)
In answer to "Why pay $5k for the L on the hood?"
The ES is priced higher than the I35, yet is outselling the I35 by more than double.
If Infiniti made the I35 more appealing:
1. They could raise the price to the ES level without fear of not being able to sell any cars.
2. Lexus would lower the price of the ES to better compete, and we'd all win.
I drove both when shopping for a new car.
I35 had a power advantage. I liked the feel when I floored it. And I could've gotten the I35 for below invoice.
ES had the advantage in: Luxury (higher quality leather and interior), noise isolation, ride quality (fully independent suspension, AVS option. I35 still uses outdated rear beam suspension), 5-speed automatic (vs. 4-speed in I35), reliability rating, design longevity (first year in new generation, will stay current for the 5-year design cycle), the design itself (the ES stands out, the I35 blends in), brand appeal, and supposedly better mileage (21/29 vs. I35's 20/26...can't determine true mileage in a test drive).
I expect the next-generation I35 to be a great car. That's probably when Lexus will release the ES350 to keep pace.
The upcoming Infiniti G35 looks to be a winner. It's the only Infiniti model so far that I would purchase over the Lexus equivalent (IS).