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You are in the Lexus ES
What is this discussion about?
Lexus ES 300, Lexus ES 330, Sedan
Jan 25, 2002 (3:06 am)
Chris Lu - Any luck with Lexus of Santa Monica?
slapshot 3 - I agree with SDDLW.
robtw - I would've liked to see the 2 features you mentioned in my ES as well, although neither would've made a difference in my purchase decision. I also think there should be integrated controls on the steering wheel for the stereo system. As for the lights timing out, are you sure that's not configurable by the dealer? There appear to be a lot of dealer-configurable options as far as lighting is concerned. Talk to one of the actual service techs about that.
And yah, driving any luxury brand will give your wife some bragging rights. =)
As far as what people are paying vs. Edmunds true market value, I'm not sure what you mean. Edmunds lists the base true market value of the '02 ES as $300 under MSRP. There are people paying $2000+ less than MSRP. hk2la got $2850 off her '02 ES. That's thousands less, not more, than Edmund's true market value.
hk2la - How're you liking your new ES so far? Any questions / comments?
#2065 of 5443 I love this car
Jan 25, 2002 (1:19 pm)
I just love it. It is so beautiful; beautiful, smooth lines, totally integrated bumpers. Rides beautifully. I was told the 4-wheel independent mcphersons are new to the ES. And yes, I am very proud of the signage. That glimmering "L".
Radio controls on steering wheel: I actually think that is a bad idea. It's much more dangerous to be glancing down at the steering wheel than glancing at the dash.
Kreativ: okay, you are right on the money (literally!)
#2066 of 5443 ventilation off
Jan 25, 2002 (5:41 pm)
I've been driving around w/ the fan off and not in recirculate mode. It smells gassy, a little detrimental to my health, I would say. I wasn't sure if it's other cars' exhaust seeping in or what. When you have the ventilation system off, is it still ventilating?
Jan 25, 2002 (6:21 pm)
Have had a 2002 ES300 for 2 weeks now. In Atlanta area there was no available inventory when I took a test drive and they got 3 cars in that week. Fortunately I was able to get one of the 3. Paid about 750 under list, almost exactly the TMV price quoted for this area.
So far (only 250 miles) avg 24 mpg, quiet, comfy. Other car is 99 I30. No problems yet, but unless I am mistaken the first "service" at 1k miles is just an inspection. Is this correct?
#2068 of 5443 hk2la / clarkram
Jan 25, 2002 (6:28 pm)
hk2la - yes, it still lets in a little bit of outside air when you have the ventilation system off, provided you are in fresh air mode and not recirc mode.
I think the point of audio steering wheel controls is so you don't have to look down at all.
clarkram - yes, the 1K/30 day "service" is just an inspection. It includes a road test if you don't mind one of the service guys taking a joy ride in your new car.
By the way, for the second free scheduled maintenance, you'll have the choice of whether you want that to be at 5000 miles or 7500 miles. I looked in the schedule manual and they also replace your A/C filter at 7500, so it makes sense to request the 7500 mile service regardless of when you bring it in. Beats me why the 5000 mile service intervals call for changing the A/C filter at 15,000, while the 7500 mile interval calls for changing it at 7,500 AND 15,000. Personally, i would ask for them to give you the A/C filter, and change it yourself when your current A/C filter actually becomes dirty. It's easy to do, and instructions are in the manual.
That's pretty good mileage you're getting, compared to me at least.
#2069 of 5443 my pathetic mileage report
Jan 25, 2002 (6:31 pm)
Gas Mileage 15MPG
Miles Driven 400
% Highway Driving 5%
Average speed 19MPH
Car Date of Manufacture: 10/01
I've only been using this car to take me to the golf courses and local places. But 15MPG seems pretty pathetic, even given the low average speed and local-only driving.
Jan 25, 2002 (6:43 pm)
is ACTUALY probably the cause of your poor milage. Such a low speed represents an ineffecient use of fuel... you aren't going far enough given the fuel used. Look at like this: if you are at idle, the engine is BARELY using fuel, but its only using it to sit there, and therefore, you get 0 MPG. Didnt you ever wonder why EPA city ratings are much lower than the HWY ratings? Its because those tests are done at a very low average speed.
Jan 25, 2002 (6:55 pm)
Also, most of the trips are short, so I'm sure that doesn't help either. I'm not too confident that my MPG will jump from 15 to 21 once I start taking it for longer trips and driving at higher MPH, but I hope so.
Any idea what average speed the EPA city rating is based on?
Jan 25, 2002 (7:03 pm)
kreativ: thanks for the tips on service. As far as mileage, mine is mainly to commute, speed limit ride (37miles) in the morning, some stop n go in afternoon, afternoon speeds avg about 40 mph.