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Lexus ES 300, Lexus ES 330, Sedan
#1387 of 5443 I Just Saw a New ES....
Sep 22, 2001 (4:54 pm)
Hi, while I don't own an ES (Toyota Avalon), I still have been reading about the new ES on this board, since it might be a likely candidate to replace my Avalon.
Anyway, today on Saturday the 22, a grayish-blue new 2002 ES 300 passed me with the Lexus dealer advertisement plates. Obviously this meant whoever bought the car has not gotten new plates yet. Interesting though that I saw one today when they aren't supposed to even be released until Monday. I thought I'd just pass that along.
Oh, by the way, it looked very sleek and low to the ground. A lot like the new Camry in styling but a little bit more radical. I know that's almost an oxymoron when talking about the ES 300, but compared to the model it replaces, the styling is definitely a big change. I'm still not sure what I think of it. It looked good but the headlights seem to go on forever, since they kind of sweep back on the hood a little too much for my taste. I didn't have much time to examine it, for I was passing the lady driving it at 35 mph, but I saw enough of it to make an opinion on the styling. I'll have to wait until I can really examine one at the dealer.
Sep 24, 2001 (5:38 am)
Whoever you saw driving that new ES must have been someone from the dealer. My understanding is that no car can be sold and delivered prior to October 1, although I could be wrong.
Also, all three dealers in my area say they aren't getting cars until the end of the week. Hopefully they will get them sooner, though.
Sep 24, 2001 (1:12 pm)
I called Lexus Customer Service and they gave me the prices.
31,505 -- Car
575 -- Shipping
550 -- In-dash 6-CD
620 -- Adjustable variable suspension
1700 -- Chrome wheels
440 -- Heated seats
640 -- HID lights w/rain-sensing wipers
210 -- Power rear shade
330 -- Wood wheel/shifter
650 -- Traction control/brake assist/stability control
1560 -- Leather, memory seats/mirrors
3010 -- Leather pkg w/ML stereo and 6-CD
3960 -- Leather pkg w/NAV and single & 6-CD
2110 -- Premium (leather pkg and 6-CD)
4860 -- Leather pkg w/ML and NAV
#1391 of 5443 The ES300 has arrived at dealers
Sep 24, 2001 (4:15 pm)
I read bacojoe's post that the new ES300 would be in showrooms today (Sept. 24), and sure enough, they were available at the Lexus dealer I went to.
I'm not a fan of how the front of the car looks. But the inside was nicer and roomier than earlier models.
#1392 of 5443 2002 ES 300 Brochures
Sep 25, 2001 (5:17 am)
Are the full brochures available at the dealers now?
Sep 25, 2001 (7:37 am)
The Lexus dealer close to me had the cars, but no brochures yet.
Sep 25, 2001 (8:10 am)
so a fully loaded ES 300 with all the options is $41200-as I had predicted--invoice will be around $36200---hmmmmmm so it is NOT value priced
Sep 25, 2001 (9:39 am)
Actually a loaded 2002 ES300 is $41,530. But it depends on how much you absolutely need.
Some things I would find unnecessary, like the GPS Navigation system, the ML Sound system, as well as rear sunshade, wood wheel/shift knob & chrome wheels.
For a car the caliber of the ES300, $41K hardly seems high considering what you get: Mark Levinson stereo, GPS Navigation system, power sunshade, chrome wheels, wood wheel, and AVS.
Sep 25, 2001 (10:16 am)
But for that same $41k (actually, even less than that), you can have an Audi S4, which has AWD, Bose stereo, a 250 hp twin turbo engine, ESP, traction control, xenons, etc. It has a great interior with outstanding performance (performace far exceeding the ES, or any other Lexus except the GS430, which costs $50k+).
If you'd rather have luxury over performance, get an A6, which has everything you mentioned (except it has Bose instead of ML - let's not debate which is better - I'm sure the ML is, but it's more expensive, too). With the A6, you also get Quattro AWD, and a more luxurious interior (IMO, although Audi is known for their interiors).
Or for that $40k, you could have a Volvo XC, a BMW 330i, an MB C320, or even a Lexus GS300.
Why would you take the ES300 over any of these (seriously)?