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BMW 3 Series, Sedan
#6402 of 30250 Platypus, BmwWagonMaster, Brave1heart, & Roc50mg
Jun 21, 2001 (9:59 pm)
Contrats on getting your 330i, again.
Thanks for the link, I printed the page for posterity (and my "Cool Stuff" files). For some reason, it printed like beep on the LaserJet, fortunately however, the page looks great when printed on the DeskJet in "HiRes" mode.
Good stuff that. Puts grins on both of your faces. Funny story about the SLK; I had to come back to the US in October of 1996 (pregnant wife, house hunting and a little work for MB-USA). I came in to work on a Saturday and saw at least 40 old SL Roadsters (all in mint condition) from the late 1950s and the early 1960s in the parking lot. My office was in a loft over the main shop and I was able to watch the proceedings from a great vantage point.
It seems that MB-USA wanted a special roll out of the new SLK230 roadster, so they invited all known owners of early SLs to come to Montvale, NJ with their cars for the US announcement of the SLK. The only negative thing (and from my point of view, the funniest) that happened was that all of the owners were complaining about the fact that the SLK230 was available with an Automatic Transmission ONLY. It seems that virtually all of the older cars were equipped with Manual gearboxes and THAT is what these folks wanted to see in the new car. The MB executives spent several uncomfortable hours back pedaling on that one issue and never seemed to recover. Obviously, they figured out that to compete with the likes of the Boxter and the Z3, a new gearbox was in order. If I am not mistaken, the first manual for the SLK was a 5-Speed, and now (based upon your research) a 6-Speed can be had, cool.
Jonnie Lee Hooker, total bummer. He WILL be missed.
I know that we here breath all things BMW, but save your money and buy a bike from a company that produces a "Best of Breed" piece of machinery. Depending upon how much you want to spend, try Trek, Cannondale, Kona, Klein or Dean. These guys are as serious about Mountain Bikes as BMW is about Cars.
#6403 of 30250 Mountain Bikes
Jun 22, 2001 (3:13 am)
Correction on the price of mountain bikes:
BMW Q6.S (Foldable) Bike -- $ 3,995.00
BMW Q3.S Bike -- $ 995.00
Okay, maybe the Q6.S is a bit too pricey, but the Q3.S is in reasonable range. I wonder if BMW lets you "test ride" their mountain bikes. Also, do they have a 3 year/36,000 mile full warranty for the bikes? (just kidding about this last part)
Thanks for your input guys.
Jun 22, 2001 (3:40 am)
I sympathize. I'm taking delivery on my 325xi this afternoon, exactly 12 weeks from the day I ordered it.
BMW grossly underestimated the demand for the AWD option. Therefore, xi model production is way behind schedule. Heard from my dealer earlier this week that BMW has decided to temporarily halt production of 325xi's next month so that it can restock AWD transmissions in time for 2002 production start-up in September/October. Don't know if this will affect 2001 xi's already on order, but you might want to ask your dealer about it.
Jun 22, 2001 (5:16 am)
The ED center wouldn't configure my keys for me. They said it would be done in the states. My local dealer had one key configured and ready when I went to pick up the car, and did the other one in less than 5 minutes. They also set it up so that the lights flash when the doors are locked/unlocked. I did not set up the clown nose to blink. (Note that I do not have the alarm.)
On the production number, my case was a little different than yours since I wanted to take delivery as soon as possible from my order date. I verbally committed to placing my order with Joern on March 9. He didn't ask for a deposit. (He had told me earlier that week that I could get a delivery date on April 25 if I acted quickly.) Eight days later on March 17, I inquired about a change in color from Steel Grey to Titanium Silver. He told me it was VERY unlikely since my car was scheduled to begin production on 4/2. (There's a window before production where the configuration cannot be changed. Not sure what it is.) I asked him to do it if he could, and four days later (March 21), he confirmed to my surprise (and his) that my new color was Titanium Silver. I sent full payment via Fed-Ex on March 23 (30 days in advance of delivery). It was some time after March 26 that Joern provided me with the production number (which was less than 30 days before delivery).
Hope this helps. Do you know when you're picking up yet?
Jun 22, 2001 (5:19 am)
I have been riding mountain bikes since college--single-tracking, road racing, etc. I'm no pro, but I've done my share of riding over the years. Though I have no doubt that BMW bike quality is good, I would be hesitant to buy a BMW mtn bike for the following reasons:
1) Stick w/ a name that has a racing and/or established reputation. This, of course, depends on what you will be using the mtn. bike for. If you just plan on doing casual riding, I would spend less than $500 and go with a lower end Trek, GT, or Specialized.
2) Cannondale, Gary Fisher, Klein, Specialized all make great bikes. These guys have been doing it for years and have great reputations. Take a look at the Cannondale Bad Boy Ultra. It runs for about $1500 and has disc brakes. It comes with slick, high PSI tires that are great for road/paved trail riding. You can swap them out for knobbies and hit the trail. The suspension on Cannondales is excellent, as well.
3) If I saw a guy on a BMW bicycle, I would think he purchased it just to be cool. Though I think the cars are excellent, for some reason I would see a guy on a BMW bike and think, "What a dork."
4) Would you buy a car made by Trek?
#6407 of 30250 burrsr re: Z3
Jun 22, 2001 (5:32 am)
By all means, go for it! There is nothing like the feel of hitting your favorite mountain/country roads with the top down on a nice sunny day, favorite tunes playing in the background. You just feel invigorated!
I would have kept mine if I weren't heading back to grad school this fall. My wife and I have had three cars for two years now, and yeah, I felt a little bourgeois at first, but you soon get over it. Having the Z3 as a fun/weekend car was wonderful. I know that I will own another roadster in a few years time.
My recommendation if you're buying new is to go with either the 2.5 or 3.0. The M has more power than necessary (which may also be the case for the 3.0.) You'll just have to look at the cost difference factor. If you're going used, go with a 2.3 or 2.8. The 1.9, although a great car, left me wanting in the get-up-and-go category.
Be aware that the car is a lot less refined than the E46.
There are some really great deals going on the Z3 now, since the '02 models will have a complete makeover (more modern, less retro). Cars can be had for under invoice due to current dealer incentives ($2000 on the 2.5 and $3000 on the 3.0). After July 3, these incentives are reduced to $1500 and $2500, respectively. This should give you some leverage when negotiating.
Let us know when you decide!
#6408 of 30250 auto climate control...
Jun 22, 2001 (6:00 am)
I thought I remembered the 325i having auto climate control standard...it's been so long, I can't recall how it was on the test drive. Edmund' says no. Was I just dreaming or is it even available for a 325i???
Jun 22, 2001 (6:08 am)
Based on the research that I did last night, M-B virtually stopped importing vehicles equipped with manual transmission in '92 and the SLK230 was the first manual since then. They figured people that buy their cars typically go for the luxury, status, and build quality and would not want to shift for themselves. Another thing that I found interesting about the SLK230 is that it gets a better gas mileage with auto than manual (I think it was 33 vs. 29 highway). There must be a pretty significant difference in gearing or I wouldn't know how else to explain it.
Funny commute this morning - for about 5 min there, there were only BMW's in the fast lane and ALL other cars were in the middle lane. There was a 330ci in front of me and an M roadster behind me. Isn't it time yet for a special BMW lane - kind of like the way they have bike alleys? Or at least more relaxed speed limits for BMW owners :o)
#6410 of 30250 jason - ACC is standard on the MY 325's. Edmunds never updated that info.
Jun 22, 2001 (6:09 am)
#6411 of 30250 jasonkureejii--Climate Control
Jun 22, 2001 (6:10 am)
ACC is standard on 325s.