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Re: 2004 325 automatuic transmission issue [jjdaniel] by lucky1man
Apr 02, 2009 (8:11 pm)
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Replying to: jjdaniel (Mar 29, 2009 7:56 am)

I have exactly same problem. 04 330I Steptronic. (34K)
 
Warranty has expired , of course
 
 Ditto to being worse overnight. I also have EML (elec malfuntion icon) .
Hope to get some info befo taking to Stealership.
 
do u hve EML lite?
 
Once in gear shifts smoothly. Wonder if is some computer that controls gear selection , independent of transmission body.
 
How check ATF fluid. Let me know what u find out and I will post any ifno I have.
 
Have to wonder if this is a probl common to the 04 3 series??
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Re: 2004 325 automatuic transmission issue [lucky1man] by jjdaniel
Apr 03, 2009 (4:58 am)
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Replying to: lucky1man (Apr 02, 2009 8:11 pm)

Thanks for your response. My EML light is not on, but like you I think this may be some electronic/computer issue for engaging the transmission. No problems after the first 5 seconds or so. Just have to wait for forward to engage after the car has been sitting overnight or for extended period. Then evertything shifts smoothly. If problem was related to shifting between gears, fluid might be the issue, but that doesn't seem likely here.
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Re: 2004 325 automatuic transmission issue [jjdaniel] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Apr 03, 2009 (6:41 am)
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Replying to: jjdaniel (Mar 29, 2009 7:56 am)

You should take the car to a dealer or specialist and have them check the transmission fluid level PROPERLY -- fluid has to flow out of the overfill hole, you don't stick your finger in there.
 
If the fluid was low, then you top it up, drive the car to determine that that solved the shifting issue and THEN find out where the fluid went.
 
if the fluid level is okay, then they have to run a diagnostic scan and see what, if any, trouble codes are present, and then proceed from there.
 
If the trouble codes demand disassembly of the transmission, you might be having a very bad day--but there could be access to used units or perhaps the fault code might indicate a problem that does not require complete overhaul.
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Re: 2004 325 automatuic transmission issue [jjdaniel] by lucky1man
Apr 03, 2009 (8:15 am)
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Replying to: jjdaniel (Apr 03, 2009 4:58 am)

Yes, we do not have shifting issue, but rather initial engagement issue.
 
Let us share diagnostic info with each other. Make sure our stealerships or Indies are on the same page.
 
Will, however check fluid level per our Host suggestion, first.
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Re: 2004 325 automatuic transmission issue [jjdaniel] by lucky1man
Apr 03, 2009 (8:59 am)
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Replying to: jjdaniel (Mar 29, 2009 7:56 am)

Forgot to mention have same issue of engagement after overnite ; have been warming car up in am to about 3/4 and then have less probl when engaging.
 
We still need to get diagnostic , of course.
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Newbie! by jtueller
Apr 05, 2009 (7:50 am)
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Hey, about to lovingly dive into the world of BMW ownership, totally committed to doing research, keeping up on maintenance, and getting the most out of the car, but could use a little advise on the two cars I think I've narrowed it down to:
 
Option A: 2000 328i, in the last year he's replaced the water pump, power steering pump, serpentine & acc. belt, intake elbow hose, fuel filter, gas cap, outside temp sensor, final stage resistor, brake rotors and pads, and oil change (about four months ago). Also comes with two sets of wheels: 16" BMW OEM wheels with Winterforce studded snow tires. And 18x8.5" Ronal wheels (made in Germany) with Potenza S03 Pole position summer tires. It's automatic (have to get an auto so the wifey can drive it) 98k miles and asking $7000
 
Option B: 2001 330xi, 126k miles, talked to him on the phone so can't be to detailed on the specidifics but he also has replaced both pumps, radiator, and a few other minor repairs. Planning on calling him back to get specifics but much like Option A seems to have kept the car maintained. Also an auto and wants $8850, can probably get him down to $8300.
 
Also have seen some 2002 325xi in the similar price range. So my questions to someone out there willing to be helpful for a newbie like me:
 
#1 I live in Salt Lake hence my looking at the AWD. But that said it I've been driving rear wheel my whole life in Utah and don't necessarily want to pass up a potential good deal (option A) as I think I'd be fine. (Plus on super snow/ice days, I have a land rover that would get me to work just fine) In my limited couple of weeks of research my gut tells me that first car has really been taken care of (seeing it today) and that the lower price tag is of course appealing letting me sock some away for maintenance that might/will occur.
 
#2 I could spend more like $11k on a car and get something a bit more recent (03-04) with perhaps around 75k miles, but then from what I can gather I'd be facing a lot of these repairs that the above cars have already taken care of. I'm not sure there's a lot of value for me to spend $3-$4k more and have to face things these have taken care of. Would love some input keeping in mind I don't put a lot of miles on cars (mighty 6 mile commute - usually only put on 6-7k a year) and just looking for a fun car to drive for the next few years, with the understanding coming into it that I need to be very proactive on the maintenance (have already been recommended a great indie mechanic by other BMW owners in the area).
 
Thank you so much in advance for taking a moment to post you comments. I really appreciate it!
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Re: 2004 325 automatuic transmission issue [lucky1man] by jjdaniel
Apr 05, 2009 (12:23 pm)
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Replying to: lucky1man (Apr 03, 2009 8:15 am)

My 325 is a convertible and I noticed that the automatic top has the same delay effect. If I try to put the top down right after starting the car (particularly after it has been sitting overnight), there is about a 5 or 10 second delay before the mechanism for lowering the top kicks in. Seems likely that there is a common cause for these delays.
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Re: Newbie! [jtueller] by roadburner
Apr 05, 2009 (6:55 pm)
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Replying to: jtueller (Apr 05, 2009 7:50 am)

I'd be tempted to go with the 2000 328i assuming that you can have a pre-purchase inspection performed by a good BMW tech-and it sounds like you already have one. The only problem is the automatic; it may go 200K with no problems and it might go tomorrow. The only decent repair is with a BMW remanufactured unit, and they aren't cheap. I wouldn't pay extra for AWD- just get a set of winter tires and wheels from Tire Rack and you'll get around just fine. That's what I do, and like you I have a serious 4X4 when things get really treacherous.
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Re: Newbie! [roadburner] by jtueller
Apr 05, 2009 (8:22 pm)
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Replying to: roadburner (Apr 05, 2009 6:55 pm)

Appreciate the feedback, I'm thinking the same. Guess I'm just rolling the dice on the automatic, but at the price I'm getting it even a $3000 repair is putting me in the same range of most similar year models I'm looking at. Perhaps I'll start socking away a few hundred a month just in case! The current owner was saying something about some of the transmissions on this year being built by one manufacturer, and the rest by an other. Does this ring a bell for anyone. And if so does one tend to fail more than the other. Figure I could dig into it and find out which I had by the VIN. Always better to see a major repair coming at you when possible!
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Re: Newbie! [jtueller] by roadburner
Apr 06, 2009 (6:52 am)
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Replying to: jtueller (Apr 05, 2009 8:22 pm)

The transmission should be the GM A5S 360R, and a BMW Remanufactured unit will run $3600-$4000 plus installation. I changed the fluid in my wife's 528i at 100K and the tranny is still going strong with its third owner. Some techs say leave the ATF alone if the ATF has over 65K on it, but I guess I dodged the bullet. In any event, I change the ATF every 50K in my wife's X3, and I'd suggest that you follow that regimen if you do wind up having to replace your autobox.

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