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You are in the BMW 3-Series
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BMW 3 Series, Sedan
#24734 of 30250 lawdawgfl
Nov 04, 2003 (8:39 am)
Over the last eight years and 84000 miles the service and repair costs on my 1995 3er have averaged $37 per month. This figure includes the cost of two sets of 225/50-16 Z rated tires. The car has seen track use as well as autocross competition. It uses 1 quart of Mobil 1 15W-50 every 3500 miles. My wife's 1997 528iA work hack was a BMW CPO car with 46000 miles on it when we purchased it. Over three years and 48000 miles repairs and service have averaged $77 per month. Included in this figure is the $642 cost of dedicated winter tires, steel wheels, and BMW wheel covers. After 94000 miles it still uses no BMW Synthetic 5W-30 between 9000 mile changes. Note that a new BMW will cost somewhat less to run due to the fact that service up to the 36 mo./36K mark is free. As for longevity, my old 1987 535is is now on it's fourth owner. At 300000 miles the engine was opened up for the first time to replace a seeping head gasket. Would an Asian FWD transportation appliance cost me less to run? Probably, but I'd run the very real risk dying of boredom whenever I was behind the wheel.
#24735 of 30250 bmwwife...sorry, but i disagree with you here...
Nov 04, 2003 (12:14 pm)
i've seen many more examples of acuras, hondas, toyotas, and lexuses that cross the 250,000 or 300,000 mile mark compared to BMW's. i love my BMW, but if i have to sink a grand every single time to replace parts while i only have to change the oil in a japanese car, which car is more "durable"?
there is simply no comparison between the costs of owning/maintaining a toyota or honda relative to a BMW. i love my bimmer, but it is not a cheap car to maintain.
#24736 of 30250 div2, thanks for the statistics...
Nov 04, 2003 (12:15 pm)
i wonder if putting 84,000 miles over eight years gives you a different result than putting on 35,000 miles in one year.
Nov 04, 2003 (12:20 pm)
From your profile you live in Southern California. In the northeast cars will start an early rust cycle after 5 years due to volumne of salt used on the roads. The German cars seem to stand up better to the punishment of sand and salt year after year.
Places like Pheonix or SoCal a Pinto could go 500,000 miles. But in the northeast it seems to me that older Japanese cars are more prone to rust to older German cars and therefore will fall apart sooner. German vehicles seem to age much more gracefully than Japanese vehicles.
#24738 of 30250 andergtr
Nov 04, 2003 (12:49 pm)
Well, as you can guess, I don't drive the 3er on a daily basis. That said, I drove the car on both of the vacation trips we took this year- over 3000 miles total. I usually drive it to work once or twice a week. It doesn't see a lot of stop and go traffic either. I don't drive it in the snow, mainly because there's not much point in buying a set of dedicated winter tires for it when the 5er already has a set and my other vehicle is a Jeep Wrangler. I also have horrible visions of it being rear-ended by some idiot in a Navigator... I wouldn't think that putting more miles per year over a shorter time span would have any significant effect, but who can say? I did have a BMW M6 that was fairly expensive to run; I probably averaged $150-$200/month for maintenance. However, with a Conforti chip and a Euro exhaust(310 bhp at the crank) I humiliated dozens of Mustang GTs, Z28s, ZX Turbos, etc. Best of all, I drove it for three years and then sold it for $500 less than I paid for it. If I had bought a new Accord or Camry for a similar amount I would have had very low maintenance costs, but in all liklihood I would have lost at least $10000 in depreciation if I sold it three years later.
#24739 of 30250 durability v. reliability
Nov 04, 2003 (3:29 pm)
I'm thinking that these are two different things.
#24740 of 30250 is there a grammar/language school
Nov 04, 2003 (3:52 pm)
err, grammar/language topic in edmunds townhall?
#24741 of 30250 Durable.........
Nov 04, 2003 (3:58 pm)
in a vehicle means that it will last a long time. Reliable means that it has few repair needs.
What's your point, K?
Nov 04, 2003 (4:32 pm)
bmwwife - absolutely a car can be durable with many repairs. Or have few repairs and not be durable.
Nov 04, 2003 (7:11 pm)
Only BMW can get away with not including homelink on a $40,000 car. Although it's prewired, this is a dealer-installed extra, right? Where do they mount the homelink and how much do dealers charge for it?