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BMW 3 Series, Sedan
#20671 of 30250 visionxp
Nov 02, 2002 (9:31 pm)
The Club Sport was a limited edition(less than 300 built) offered by BMW Individual. The package consisted of an M-Technic bodykit, special leather/cloth sport seats, an M-Technic suspension, and 16X7 five spoke alloys wearing 225/50-16 Z-rated summer tires. The Club Sport also featured M3 mirrors and the 1.8L M42 engine-in contrast to the later M badged Sports, which came with standard mirrors and the 1.9L M44. I special ordered my Club Sport in August 1995. According to the dealer ordering information sheet, there were only three options available for the Club Sport-limited slip, premium sound, and sunroof. Available colors were limited to Bright Red and Jet Black. I did not want a sunroof but soon after my order was sent in BMWAG informed my salesperson(Barbara Neuerman of Fields BMW in Chicago) that AG had decided to build ALL Club Sports with sunroofs. Shades of the old Max Hoffman "mandatory options" on the 2002 and Bavaria! Barbara went to work and one day later she was informed that my build order did not include a sunroof. She did the same for another customer in the Windy City CCA Chapter. Both of these cars were Bright Red. I know of one Jet Black Club Sport without a sunroof as well. I'd guess there are probably less than 10 Club Sports in existence without a sunroof. BMWNA released a special Club Sport Brochure in late October 1995-after production had ended. Only one road test of the Club Sport is available-a "Short Take" in the June 1996 Car and Driver. It's a terrific car, and it acquits itself on the track quite well. Due to the light weight, a Conforti chip can get 0-60 times down into the mid-sevens, while handling is very similar to that of an E30 M3. I plan to keep it forever, though I am looking for a nice 2002 Turbo to keep it company...
Nov 03, 2002 (6:51 am)
i'd shoot for the 93, if possible... 92's have a few teething pains that may or may not have been taken care of by the original owner...
what colin says is correct... service history is a must... if the oil changes/inspections have been done on a regular basis, that's a good sign... but i'd still spend a hundred bucks or so and get it checked out real good... you don't want to buy one of these and realize that you need to drop a new engine in it 6 months later...
at 100k, you are looking at some wear part replacements... probably struts and ball joints, brakes if they haven't been done (and yes, you gotta replace the rotors at the same time as the pads)... belts... water pump (although that SHOULD have been done)... the darned plastic thermostat housing... probably an o2 sensor... muffler is probably reaching the "shot" phase... if automatic transmission, it might be approaching the "rebuild" stage (maybe/maybe not, conflicting information on this one with 3ers)... if it's a 318, make sure the profile gasket has been replaced (when did they "fix" that issue div?)... various other things will have reached the wear stage (like in my example of the fan clutch)...
of course, all of the above would pretty much hold for any used car with 100k and 10 years on it...
as far as "routine" maintenance for 12-15k per year... you are looking at an oil change and an inspection about once a year... if you do it at the dealer, around 100 for the "oil service" and around 300 for inspection 1 or 5-600 for inspection ii... less if you can find a good independent to do the work (again, NOT joe at the corner garage)...
does that help?
#20673 of 30250 ccotenj
Nov 03, 2002 (9:16 am)
The profile gasket problem was corrected by late 1994. Most of the gaskets that failed should now have been replaced with the later improved gasket which solved the problem.
#20674 of 30250 Car Cover Recommendation
Nov 03, 2002 (11:50 am)
I bought one from autosportcatalog.com. They have a good buyers guide on their website to help you decide what to buy. I didn't do much price shopping, but their price was in line. I ordered it on-line, and it arrived directly from the manufacturer within a week. I am very pleased with it.
Nov 03, 2002 (12:12 pm)
however i have a few questions about what you wrote in there:)
1) when you say "belts" what belts are you talking about? i thought they dont have timing belts but timing chains(im not a mechanic so i might be wrong)
2)howcome it only needs one oil change per year?do they use synthetic or what?
3)when is the inspection I necessary and when is the inspection II necessary? and whats the difference between these 2.
thats pretty much it for now
btw im looking for a manual so the rebuilding wont be a problem hopefully.
Nov 03, 2002 (12:22 pm)
Guys. I'm planning to get 3M clear mask installed on the hood and front bumper on my 325. Any suggestion? what price will i be looking at?
Nov 03, 2002 (12:36 pm)
One way to know when an E36 needs service is to consult the BMW Service Indicator lights on your dash. But, for a high-mileage car I think that they are a little too optimistic. Here's what I do for my '93:
Oil change every 5000 miles
Inspection I every 15000 miles
Inspection II every 30000 miles
Inspection I includes an oil change, plus inspection of other fluid levels, belts, lights, airbags, brakes, fuel system, exhaust, doors, transmission, change HVAC filter, etc.
Inspection II includes all of Inspection I, plus new fluids*, new fuel filter, new air filter, new spark plugs, etc.
* Except for brake fluid, which is replaced every 2 years, and coolant, which is replaced every 3 years.
These engines do have timing chains, so "belt" refers to the belts that drive various accessories (alternator, AC compressor, etc.).
Nov 03, 2002 (2:22 pm)
Inspection I every 15000 miles
Inspection II every 30000 miles
so if were looking at a car with lets say 100k miles that just had an inspection 2 performed on it.
inspection wise the next inspection I will be at 115k ?
what about inspection II? will that be at 130k (that is 15 k after Inspection I) or at 30k after the Inspection I(which would be at 145k) ?
please clarify this for me
Nov 03, 2002 (2:34 pm)
yup, that's what i meant by belts... serpentines... timing chain should be good for the life of the engine... unless i'm misinformed on that one...
yes, next inspection would be inspection i at 115k... inspection ii would be at 130k...
that's about my schedule eric, ever since i crossed the 100k mark... change the oil halfway on the si lights... especially since most of my driving now is 5 miles at a time...
ps. thanks div...
Nov 03, 2002 (4:37 pm)
hey guys thanx for the advice. I still haven't tried the febreeze thing yet because they are fixing the door seal (drivers side because door doesn't close properly) on the 330ci. The car only has 7,000 miles on it and they explained that the door seals do break now and then on coupes. This is something that is common. Is this accurate? and if it is, after my warranty is over, what can i do or put on the seals to avoid this?
Also, my privious car was a 2001 325 sedan with 20,000 miles on it. It seems like the 2002 330ci (7,000 miles) is so much loader in engine noise than the 2001 330ci (26,000 miles)i test drove and my old 325.. i know the 330 has 40 more ponies but would that make such a big difference since the 2001 seemed quieter? maybe it's just my imagination...did they change anything in the engine from 2001-2002?
Also, does anyone know if Goodyear Eagles All season tires are any better than those crappy Continental touring tires they usually put on the car?
thanx again guys and i'll keep you posted when i pick up the car on weds. the 6th.