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BMW 3 Series, Sedan
Mar 31, 2001 (5:23 pm)
jk26 & goody4 appreciate the info. on my AWD question. I am curious as to why BMW offered this option in 1988 thru 1991 and stopped. Although BMW offers dynamic stability control nothing beats the reassurance of AWD. My intent is purchase a 2002 model car this fall and the 325xi is on my short list.
Is anyone familiar with the BMW dealerships in the Atlanta area? Next to reliability the quality of customer service from a dealership is very high on my list of priorities.
#1291 of 30250 re: 3 series lease
Mar 31, 2001 (10:03 pm)
bmw has great lease deals on 330s until end of april - enhanced residuals and interest rates down around 5-5.5%. check with a dealer to be sure, but i think a 330xi w/leather, roof, xenon, sport pkg, cd, cwp comes in at about $550 (12K), actually less than a comparable 325!
#1292 of 30250 Re: if anyone cares...
Mar 31, 2001 (10:19 pm)
i own an audi a6 2.7t and i absolutely love it -overall i can't think of any car that's better!!
agreed that it doesn't drive like a bimmer, but nothing, absolutely no other car drives like an audi in the rain and snow! definitely know what you mean about nit-picky things going wrong. in eight months i've had to take it to the dealer 4 times for stupid little things, but it all becomes worth it when i get caught in a bad storm - the car never misses a beat. also, to be fair, it's a huge car - much bigger than a 3- or even 5-series, and i think drives incredibly well for its 4000 lb. heft.
that said, i'm ordering a 330xi next week and very excited about it. hope i'll like it as much as my audi. i'm sure i will:)
#1293 of 30250 PLEASE HELP! (AGAIN)
Apr 01, 2001 (12:32 pm)
Posted at message #1135 but got no response. Really wanted the 330I but can't get past the price.Found this lovely 325XI. Comes with PP,Cold Wea Pkg,AWD SPT PKG,IN-Dash CD,is BLK with Sand ,is a 2001,and is located in MASS.Dealer MSRP is 35,285 and they stopped negotiating at 33,385.MY Heart says go but my wife says NO!!!.She seems to think that it's $600 too high.I can't sleep at night for thinking of the roads I'll miss driving this beauty.Any help convincing her of whether it"s a good/fair deal would go a long way to making me an owner.Thank God for this message board.I've read every thing I can get my hands on about bimmers,and still my appetite is ravenous.Thanks for being there!!
#1294 of 30250 Help is here!!
Apr 01, 2001 (1:10 pm)
jschmoe- Are you kidding?! This dealer is willing to give you 1900 off MSRP! You should know from reading this message board that getting 1500 off MSRP has been a struggle reguardless of location. Take it, it's a gift. Also, it sounds like a little pride is getting in the way if your willing to throw away your dream car over 600 dollers (just my opinion). I bet if you ordered this same car from a dealer, you could kiss the 1900 dollers off MSRP good-bye. It sounds like this dealer wants to unload this ride fast. Also, a reason for such a great deal is that this car has so many options. This is where they make all of their money. This is probubly why they are willing to flex as much as they have. Finally, if the 330 is the car you really want, why not just order it with a few less options then this 325 your looking at. It will probubly work out to only a few grand more. That is unless you need all of these options. I think many are unnecessary (again, just my opinion).
Take care and good luck
#1295 of 30250 Comfort Feel; 330i vs 330ci coupe; Why pick the coupe?
Apr 01, 2001 (6:28 pm)
Hey folks, I almost put down the money but thought to take a bit on this topic and share my few findings. I test drove a 330ci coupe w/Auto/PremPkg/SportsPkg and loved the ride, except the noise level in the low rpms. I am in NJ and am not sure if buying a Sports Package is a good idea. Yes - we get tons of bloody pot holes. I followed with another test drive of 330i Sedan with Auto/PremPkg but no sports package. Quite a different feel on the 2nd run. I think partly due to the fcat that the 330i did not have a sports package. The corning and turning felt better (quick/sharper) in the coupe. Regardless, I am more perplexed by the fact that 330ci coupe feels much comftable as opposed to 330i. Is it just me or could it be the fcat that 330ci coupe is a bit lower to the ground and has wider arm rest to give the overall 360 comfort zone when seated? I felt that 330i Sedan was a bit tight on the left hand side when compared with the coupe!! Does anyone here share the same feeling in terms of comfort? I am not able to decide which one I should go for. The younger and selfish side says, pick the coupe. But, then I just had a baby boy and don't know if coupe would be the right pick. ( I do have a Minivan - Honda Oddy ). Can someone share similar buying experiences? To sum up, the issues I am facing are:
- Sports Package in NJ? ( yes we got pot holes )
- 330i Sedan vs Coupe for a new father!?
- Price pointers, what are the best going rates for 330i with PP/HeatedSeats/Auto/Xenon/CD?
Thanks a bunch.
Apr 01, 2001 (6:42 pm)
Based on my experience and those of others who have posted on this board, I am amazed that two weeks after placing your order for a 330xi, the car has been produced and is awaiting shipping. Your dealer must have had an order "in line" that he was able to change right before production.
My experience is as follows: I ordered my 330xi in mid-January. Production began at the end of February, and it was shipped March 13. I understand it arrived in port in NJ on March 26. As of today (4/1) Owner's Circle reports that it finally has made it to the preparation center. I am keeping my fingers crossed that it will be at my dealer some time this week.
So, the bottom line, from my experience and that of others, it seems to take generally a lot longer than expected. Then again, from what everyone else says around here....it's worth the wait. Hope this has been helpful to you.
#1298 of 30250 jschmoe3 - too good to be true
Apr 01, 2001 (8:18 pm)
If it is, take the deal while it's on the table. I live in MASS as well and I ordered my 325i 3 weeks ago for $1,300 off MSRP. That took some negotiating and I'm not shy, believe me. Listen, the spread between invoice and MSRP on a 35K-BMW is about $3,800. The dealer has to pay about $600 in MACO charges (that's mostly BMW advertising fees passed on to the dealer) and there are NO hiden incentives for the dealer, such as dealer hodlbacks. So out of the $3,800 spread, you are saving $1,900 and the dealer is making about $1,300 net, or about 3.3% profit. For Christ's sake, man - salespeople have to live off something too, you know. This is not a Kia dealership that gives cars away at invoice so they can make money on the service... Most important, if you are financing the car, a $600 difference is about $15/mo over 4 years, interest included. $15/mo to get the car you really want?!? I'm sure your wife must be more reasonable than to make fuss over $15/mo for something that makes you really happy. Good luck, I sincerely hope you can still get this awesome deal on an awesome car!