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#2178 of 2237 Re: hard to start..with white smoke and smeel of fuel [h20man5]
Apr 05, 2008 (2:01 pm)
If the turbo was not the problem...we have a 2001 9.5 six cylinder..there was a recall on the IDM's in the 9.5, although SAAB has said it didn't relate to the 6 cylinder, both the IDM's in my 9.5 went out...one in Nov 2005 shortly after receiving the written notification that the IDM's were defective (SAAB paid for the replacement). They refused to replace the other IDM saying it wasn't defective, but the 2nd one did go bad in Mar 2008 at about 85k miles...I'm trying to get my money back from SAAB now. Next time, I'll buy a Volvo. I don't like doing business with a company who won't stand behind their product. It really burns me that they knew the IDM's in my vehicle were defective but wouldn't replace it at no cost because 'sorry your VIN# isn't on the list'...I've initiated a complaint with the Federal Consumer Protection Agency and am looking for other SAAB 9.5 owners who have had this problem. Hoping to lodge a class action suite against them.
#2179 of 2237 2001 9.5 IDM defect not warranted by SAAB
Apr 05, 2008 (2:12 pm)
My husband and I purchased a 2001 SAAB 9.5 new in Oct. 2001, drawn to the auto for it's safety rating. In Oct. 2005 I received a letter from SAAB informing me that the IDM was defective on the SAAB 9.5's. The letter stated what to watch for and to immediately stop driving the car and get service if the engine started firing on only 3 cylinders. They said I would be receiving an official recall letter in the near future. Within 2 weeks of receipt of the letter, one of the IDM's went bad. I had to pay a local repair shop to run diagnostics on it, but SAAB eventually paid to have it towed to their dealer for repair at no charge. We asked them to replace the other IDM while they were at it because we didn't want to end up on the side of the road. They refused saying our car wasn't officially on the recall yet. Fast forward to March 2008. While on the way to a sporting event, the car starts shaking and check engine light comes on. We immediately know it is the other IDM. Fortunately we were close to the dealer, drove there and left the car. The dealer was kind enough to give us a loaner to get home if we promised to return it the next day, which was a Saturday. Since their repair shop was closed for the weekend, it was Monday before they could repair the auto, which was indeed the 2nd IDM gone bad. The dealer charged us $315 because our VIN # was not one of the ones with the recalled IDM. They said I needed to take it up with SAAB USA. I wrote SAAB USA a letter, attached a copy of the repair invoice and the original letter to me stating the IDM was defective. They called a week later and said there was nothing they could do because my VIN# was not on the recall list. I tried to explain that just because our VIN wasn't on the list did not mean the IDM wasn't defective and that the fact that both IDM's failed clearly indicated they were defective just like they said the in letter I received in Oct. 2005. However, they refused to do anything. Therefore, my step has been to contact the Federal Consumer Protection Agency filing a complaint. I'm not looking for other people who have experienced this same problem to see if we can get a class action suit against SAAB. This is unacceptable customer service. I will not buy another SAAB. I will not do business with a company who fails to stand behind their product even when they know it's defective.
#2180 of 2237 2003 saab 95 aero AT
Apr 05, 2008 (2:50 pm)
I am considering purchasing a pre-owned 03 saab 95 aero that is at a Nissan dealer. I have never purchased a certified pre-owned vehicle before. When they are certified and are covered for 45,000mi powertrain, is Saab honoring this coverage, the Nissan dealer, etc?
Also, any feedback about this car before I purcahse?
#2181 of 2237 Car stutters while on highway, stops at lights
Apr 07, 2008 (11:50 am)
My 2001 9-5 Saab Aero is currently at 80,000 miles. For the past few months, I have been experiencing a strange stutter while I drive that feels as if someone has cut off the gas then released it very quickly. The car gives a little jerk then keeps going. Today, while I was at a red light, it stopped completely. I quickly restarted it, but it was very unsettling. I have replaced the DI unit 2x, the water pump, the radiator, the heads 2x, etc. I also give it a steady diet of synthetic oil. Has anyone else experienced this shutter and what did you do about it? I took it to my mechanic last month and they couldn't find anything wrong with it. But I'm afraid it might quit while I'm driving it on the highway
#2182 of 2237 Re: 2003 saab 95 aero AT [cmemmd]
Apr 09, 2008 (1:31 pm)
The only place you can purchase a Saab Certified used car is at and through a Saab dealer.....NO exceptions!The Nissan dealer is playing fast and loose with the definition of what "certification"means. The other point would be that even a Saab dealer cannot sell an '03 model under the terms of Saabs program.The program covers current model year and 4 previous model years('07,'06,'05,'04).You are basically being offered a service contract with a more attractive,and very misleading,name!
#2183 of 2237 Re: 2003 saab 95 aero AT [saablcp]
Apr 09, 2008 (6:13 pm)
What does "Saab Cerftified" from a Saab dealership really give you? Also, I thought there was a mileage cutoff, not just 5 model years on cars which receive SC.
#2184 of 2237 Re: Car stutters while on highway, stops at lights [jwooda33]
Apr 13, 2008 (4:00 pm)
I've had a similar problem with my 2002 Saab 9-5 (with ~68K miles on it). Symptoms sounded exactly like yours - had it checked by a mechanic when the check engine light came on eventually. It was caused by a faulty crankshaft position sensor. Got it replaced, car seems to behaving well now. Should cost you ~ $120, not too bad. Do get it changed - the good news is that the car should switch into limp home mode, and not quit on you completely first.
#2185 of 2237 Re: 2003 saab 95 aero AT [saablcp]
Apr 26, 2008 (8:42 pm)
Just speculating here on Saab CPOs which go for six years or 100K from date of service. I think it's correct to say that right now Saab will only CPO cars that are 2004 or newer.
But suppose that an '03 Saab had been turned in at the end of its lease, been CPOed (good for 6 years or 100K) and resold. Then suppose the second owner in 2008 trades it in for another brand. If mileage is under 100K isn't the CPO still valid until 2009 on this 2003? So the trick would be to take the VIN and check with a Saab dealer to find out if the car ever was CPOed by Saab and if the CPO is transferrable.
CPO terms are on the Saab CPO site. I've heard owners (and even a Saab dealer) argue that they'd rather set aside an emergency fund instead of pay a premium for the CPO warranty. Others say the new car warranty on a used car is well worth the price. The right choice for any particular person, I suspect, is contingent on how comfortable they are with a wrench in their hand.
#2186 of 2237 Cooling system problem 9.5 2000 v6
May 03, 2008 (1:10 pm)
I am in the process of replacing my heater bypass valve. Does anyone know of any special precautions for refilling the cooling system. My older saabs had air valves which allowed all the air to escape when refilling. Please let me know your experience. thank you. BTW 99K and extremely satisfied with my car
#2187 of 2237 Re: Car stutters while on highway, stops at lights [captainuncle]
Aug 25, 2008 (7:11 am)
Hi it looks like I have that problem too but can you tell me the part number because my mechanic change the output shaft sensor and got rid of the light but the symthom ist still there some times please thank you.