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Saab 9-5, Sedan
#2004 of 2237 Re: Lets keep some perspective.... [saablcp]
Nov 30, 2005 (7:06 am)
From when I bought my 2001 Saab 9-5, Consumer Reports
has downgraded engine reliability to well below
avg (see most recent CR used car guide).....consumers
know this and resale value suffers.
Big picture is that the number of negative postings for
Saab's exceeds any positive postings. This is why I
got rid of the Saab. There are plenty of other cars
out there which are more reliable with far better
#2005 of 2237 Re: Lets keep some perspective.... [wthm]
Nov 30, 2005 (10:15 am)
Consumer reports as is their norm gives you a reference but are always short on specifics.Most engine problems are with the light pressure turbo 3.0 liter V-6.something you should be aware of if used car shopping.As to new models,Saab dropped the 3.0 V-6 and only offers the 2.3 turbo I-4 in 220H.P or 250H.P. versions for '05 and a single 260H.P. version for the upcoming '06. The 2.3 liter block is an absolute war-horse for Saab,in use since the late 80's and virtually bullet-proof.
#2006 of 2237 Good price on a Aero Wagon?
Dec 01, 2005 (11:49 am)
I have a final price of $32,025 for 2005 Parchment silver Aero Wagon. It has approximately 5500 miles (a demo-but still new car financing) and has Executive package and Sentronic auto. Is this a good price on a Aero wagon? Tax will be another $2000 or so OTD price would be $34,285 here in Texas. Even though it's a 2005, 2006 remodels will arrive at the dealership soon. Dealership is giving me over $12,000 in discounts, but I think I could pull even better price if I could wait just a bit longer...Also, is Parchment silver a popular color? I could live with the color, but I am concerned in a long run if I ever have to trade this car.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
#2007 of 2237 Good Price? Hell Yes!!!
Dec 07, 2005 (11:28 am)
Not only a good price but the fact is there are probably not even 20 '05 Aero wagons left in the country at this point.Based on the fact that Saab has a very minimal number of '05 9-5's to move it is HIGHLY unlikely that they will offer any additional subsidies on these models.If you hold off wating for that to happen it's more likely that someone will step up to the plate,buy the car and you'll lose out.The '06 has some nice design and styling changes but the best case pricing scenario would have you at $6-7K. above the '05.
#2008 of 2237 2006 9.5
Dec 10, 2005 (7:35 am)
just saw and tested the new 9.5 and very dissapointed.
so, if you are a saab traditionalist and are thinking of buying a new one .........wait..........
i think that the new car will just dive in sales.
no real changes over the 2000 .
actually i find the car has been decontented in many areas thou they claim 1360 changes .
so,sales will be slow and thus good deals to be had in a few months.
just cross shop it with the m35 thr rl 3.5 and others in the same $ 41,000 price range.
it just cannot compete.
now ,a fully equipped 9.5 2006 sports packg. going for less than $35,000. may just do it .otherwise ????
#2009 of 2237 Re: 2006 9.5 [ffb13]
Dec 10, 2005 (9:08 am)
Well for starters....2000 9-5 Aero,230H.P.......no Xenon headlights,no stability control,no XM radio,No availibilty of in-dash CD changer,no Prepaid maintenance...M.S.R.P.
App.$41,000. 2006 9-5 Sedan W/Sport Pkg....260H.P. ALL THE ABOVE STANDARD....M.S.R.P.$35,915.We have received one Wagon and one Sedan,initial customer reaction:OVERWHELMINGLY positive,Both vehicles sold the first day of arrival.After 11 years selling Saab's I have learned that there is a large contingent of Saab-o-philes who despair over every change made to the vehicle since 1985.Of course if Saab followed their lead we would have gone the way of Renault,Peugeot,Alfa Romeo years ago!
#2010 of 2237 oh yeah ????
Dec 11, 2005 (10:01 am)
the 2006 9.5 that i saw had a sticker of $40,785 .
and all it had was the sports pckg. and freight .
like i said , a fully equipped one ,and i mean all the stuff, at 35.o is a yes .
otherwise is a no.
as far as saabphiles is concerned ,saab lost most of them the moment that gm started to get involved.
i had always wanted a saab . but they were somewhat unreliable and i never did .even when an aquitance of mine bob sinclair used to ru n the company in the usa ,they ,saab had extremely poor customer service.
it was when the p & g guys moved from saturn to saab and started implementing new quality control standards that i decided to get one.i know their systems very well having worked with many of them in the past.and, i expected them to follow through .they did not.
they screwed things up.
so where we now ........
better cars out there for the same or less money.
i still like my aero. has been great. but will not buy another one.
again,better cars out there ,more reliable, and better sound systems ,etc....
a real shame .
by the way ,i do own infinity and others including another tragic loss due to reliability problems ,mb.
so, you may not agree . but a few saab dealers had opted out of the brand recently by selling the dealerships..they see the hand writing in the wall,and wagoneer is not capable to turn this ,nor gm around.
#2011 of 2237 Re: oh yeah ????.....YEAH!!!
Dec 13, 2005 (8:09 am)
Saab 2006 9-5 sedan w/sport pkg.M.S.R.P.= $35,195
Visibility Pkg.= $1,295.00
Mica Metallic Paint= $550.00
TOTAL M.S.R.P.= $39,110.00
Order your car in non-metallic Black w/5 spd.manual transmission(my preference) M.S.R.P.= $37,210.
Yes, you can drive the car's price up with Onstar and Navigation if you want them but I can buy the $37,210 car I speced out for under $36K.any day,all day!!!!
#2012 of 2237 sorry but you do not get it, you must be a dealer
Dec 13, 2005 (3:19 pm)
the point is ,a fully equipped 9.5 ,and i did say before , fully equipped ,at under 35 $ is a go.from a list of what $ 41.5 or 42 ?
but ,a stripped one ,or say a base model ,at 30.0$ maybe.but too high at 35.
keep in mind that the new radio is inferior to the one in my 2000 aero.
the leather in the seats is not as subtle as in mine.it is grainer and coarser.
the word is decontented.
and yes ,in 2000 my car listed at 42.5 or so,and i did get it for under 38 in december 2004.
so on this basis the new car,5 years newer,at the same price point as my 2000 appears to be a good deal.. but is it really ?
i went to the dealer planning to get the new one ,2006.
i walked away.
and as much as i like saab ,i have walked away.
and now looking at either the rl or maybe the new s class or the m35 or 45.
i am happy with my fx35 and may go the infin ity route again.
the point is ,that saab ,for the year 2006 has lost a repeat customer.
i still like the feeling of driving a saab,and the 32 mpg at 85 mph on long trips .
i may come back but not now.the car is not worth it at this time.
#2013 of 2237 correction
Dec 13, 2005 (3:21 pm)
the post above should read
" for under 38 in december of 1999 "