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Saab 9-5, Sedan
#1946 of 2237 Re: 2001 9-5 troubles [staubball]
Aug 09, 2005 (11:43 am)
Try very hard to find an independent shop. Very few shops are known or advertised as Saab specialists, seek out shops that are advertised or known as Volvo/Audi/BMW/Mercedes specialists. Despite having a soft spot for Saabs, I avoided them because of situations like you find yourself in. If you end up having to get something else, target Taurus, year 2000 and newer and have some Brembo brake rotors installed. Taurus has used same base engine since 1986 introduction and has a timing chain instead of a belt. All mechanics can work on a Taurus.
General Motors (Saab's corporate parent for about a decade) is known for building throwaway cars that need to be replaced once paid off, it seems to be infecting Saab, sadly. Good luck and let us know what happens........
#1947 of 2237 Re: DI Cassette failure [ernewell]
Aug 09, 2005 (12:42 pm)
Concerning your Saab 9-5 problems, target the shop that installed your DI igniton module with an effective lawsuit. Get statement that the igniton module was installed incorrectly, check yellow pages for secretarial services experienced in typing up lawsuits and.....
Erwin Rommel Law, members.aol.com/rommellaw, order Lawsuit Cookbook;1997 Charlotte, NC video seminar; the TrialBook (extra credit if you get "Making and Meeting Objections"). Thru Amazon order latest edition of Nolo's LEgal Research book. Study one hour a day for 9 weeks or two hours a day for about 5 weeks. Anybody can and has done it, including high school dropouts and housepainters.
Will cost dealership about $5000 just to initially begin to defend the lawsuit, they will settle for cost of new catalytic converter. Seek out independent shop for future.
#1948 of 2237 Re: my dilemma [mhuntlee]
Aug 09, 2005 (6:28 pm)
Lets be a little analytical here: No '01 vehicle that I am aware of, certified or not, comes with a bumber to bumper warranty. Please re-read the warranty. No way is it b to b.
Secondly, I wasn't aware that Saab's CPO program would include cars this old. Make sure that this is a Saab CPO car, not just an aftermarket warranty the dealer threw on the windshield. Finally, the money with your deep south location sounds a little high on a soon to be five year old Northeastern college town car.
You can do better and/or newer.
#1949 of 2237 Re: 2001 9-5 troubles [staubball]
Aug 09, 2005 (6:38 pm)
While I can't offer much beyond sympathy, I do have two thoughts. Most vehicles with timing belts have a "major service" at which this component must be changed. Just out of curiosity, when is this service scheduled on your Saabs engine?
Second, 7K to have them pick up a junkyard ("salvage") engine and throw it in?? Please. Surely, with a little research (there are salvage yards that just specialize in Saab; see an issue of Hemmings) and leg work you can find an independent garage that can pop in an engine. Or, maybe only the head needs work and the lower end is OK. Clearly, they quoted you the 7K figure to get you out of their shop and moving down the road. Acquiesce to this and take it to a garage that wants to help.
As far as suggesting that you buy a used Taurus and put in 2K worth (plus labor) of Brembo brakes, that poster has read too many issues of CarCraft and needs to rejoin the classroom discussion.
#1950 of 2237 Re: 2001 9-5 troubles [blckislandguy]
Aug 13, 2005 (10:01 am)
Read my email again and pay attention. I specifically mentioned ordering Brembo brake rotors.....rotors only....$170 or so thru autobarn dot com, use regular, off-the-shelf brake pads. My neighborhood hole-in-the-wall indy shop installed rotors and pads for $60. Transformed a Taurus into a much better vehicle that is reliable and, if bought at 4-5 years old, has 80-90% of the depreciation wrung out of it. If an accident or major repair causes someone to need a decent vehicle for a while until they get something better, the Taurus is a pragmatic option.
I mentioned the used 2000 and newer Taurus as an option if they get rid of their Saab.
#1951 of 2237 peterson tranny and remus exhaust
Aug 13, 2005 (1:20 pm)
no filter in transmission .this is why it is so easy to change the fluid. just take the plug out,let it drain, ,put plug back in and then add fluid.
i bought a set of rhino car risers ,you basically drive the car up on it and makes it very easy to get under the car and drain the oil and tranny.
some dealers charge $180. for the tranny fluid change .
also ,just installed the remus viggen oval tip exhaust in my 9.5 aero.
my rear muffler was rusting in the outer shell and went to a local dealer and got the above for $ 425. including tax. about $ 80 off list.
so far ,it is not too loud , except inside my garage ,once out and on the road you cannot hear it.
any benefits ?
i was told no with the auto tranny ,but major benefits if you add the chip and other in a manual.
#1952 of 2237 Purchasing Used and Undecided
Aug 16, 2005 (2:41 am)
Alrighty, perhaps someone could help me with my little debacle. I'm am considering purchasing a 1999 Saab 9-5 SE V6. I've read reviews, and I have driven this particular car. I love everything about the car. The one thing that is holding me back is whether or not this car will prove to be reliable. I'll be honest as say that I know very little about Saabs and any car that comes from the land of ABBA. In fact, I have been driving Toyotas for my past two cars. Which reinforces that fact. Are there any things in particular I should look for while inspecting the car? What were the problem areas for that particular model? Hopefully you guys can help convince this Camry driver to be a 9-5 driver.
Thanks for any help, Peter
#1953 of 2237 reliability ?????
Aug 16, 2005 (6:10 pm)
think of buying a saab the same as buying a jaguar.
some are good some are not .
it used to be that 7 out of 10 jaguars were not reliable.(my stat )
nowadays it is more like 4 out of 10.and this is a stretch.
you want reliability get a toyota or honda.
you want "character " ie. problematical and unreliable get a saab.or get a fiat or an english car.
i own one , 9.5 aero ,with 86,000 miles and was just given an 8 year warranty unlimited mileage (see consumer reports of last month for other cars in this fix ) because the engines are failing. they call it the oil sludge factor.
look into other saab sites that give you very accurate info. on your question.
#1954 of 2237 Re: Purchasing Used and Undecided [misterreliable]
Aug 17, 2005 (12:50 pm)
I would investigate weather it is covered under SAAB's extended warranty. I received a letter From SAAB offering an additional 8 years on my engine as long as I provided all receipts and copies of checks done by certified SAAB repair folks. They only are offering it to certain years because of the oil sludge problem. If you decide to buy used I would see if it is covered first and get the letter directly from SAAB. My 9-5 had to have a new engine at 55,000 miles last summer. Last month they replaced my O-2 sensor, catalytic convertor and it is back in the shop with what they hesitate to call it computer issues. I have been using a loaner for the past couple of weeks will they look at it and fight with SAAB. The car has 85,000 miles.
I would never buy a SAAB again, I would like to sell - interested.
Stick with Toyota or Volvo.
#1955 of 2237 Re: 2001 9-5 troubles [observer22]
Aug 17, 2005 (6:16 pm)
Thanks. I stand corrected. Incidentally, steel brake lines which are available in the after market also dramatically reduce stopping distance. They are highly recommended for the Expedition/Suburban crowd.