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Saab 9-5, Sedan
#1680 of 2237 Free At Last; Free At Last
Mar 23, 2004 (6:01 pm)
After 101k miles with my '99 Saab 9-5 4 cylinder automatic along with thousands of dollars of repairs, endless trips to the shop, total unreliability, incompetent dealers, unhelpful and user hostile Saab customer service I am free at last. I now have a 2004 Toyota Camry. I have had Camry's in the past and the Saab was a major mistake. It was noisy, did not handle well and the reputed performance features were not needed for normal and sane driving. But worst of all the car was NOT reliable and subject to continuous mechanical breakdowns. If I had an enemy who I really detested I would sell him the car at a low price and then gloat. My advice to anyone that will listen; Do Not Buy or Lease A Saab. You will be sorry.
#1681 of 2237 Seats too soft , Reply to buddhabman
Mar 24, 2004 (1:54 pm)
I'm getting used to the seats. They aren't the ventilated ones, btw. There's a lumbar support that I put at it's most extreme position which moved my thighs further over the seat edge. This feels better for me and I'm begining to not think about the seating while I'm driving. I'm finally starting to enjoy my new car. It has a very rich feel to it, but with the manual and 250hp/256tq it's fun to zoom around in, too. Handles great. People make too much about the fwd vs rwd vs awd with respect to handling. I don't notice the torque steer.
I think 29K is just a bit too much for a 2003 new Linear. I just bought a well optioned 2004 Aero for $34.5K (List - $7500). At $27K the Linear might be okay, though. That's about the price of an Acura TSX. The Linear is surely nicer.
I passed up a 2003 M/T Linear with 46K miles for $24K. I would have bought it at $22k, I think. Never got to make the offer, though.
#1682 of 2237 Free At Last; Free At Last
Mar 25, 2004 (11:03 am)
Congrats on your new Camry.
Nice Car - Booring!!
Too bad about your old Saab. I read that the ones prior to 2001 can be a problem. 2003+ are better I hope, so far so good, no problems.
When I see you on the highway I will try not to blow by you too fast. ;-0
#1683 of 2237 Free at Last, Reply to Buddhabman
Mar 26, 2004 (2:09 pm)
Thank you for your best wishes with my new Toyota. After my adventures with the Saab "boring" is exactly what I want. No more exciting trips to have it fixed every other week plus the scheduled maintainence checks. No more exciting diagnostic hunts to find out what broke this time. No more exciting feeled to see if the car will start and actually run. Boring reliability is something I can get used to.
By the way why do most Saab owners usually talk about how fast the car can go to the virtual exclusion of anything else. I could offer some reasons and opinions but I would like to hear what others have to say about this.
Thanks again for you best wishes.
#1684 of 2237 Fast but nothing else!
Mar 31, 2004 (3:05 pm)
by paulr11 - 'By the way why do most Saab owners usually talk about how fast the car can go to the virtual exclusion of anything else. I could offer some reasons and opinions but I would like to hear what others have to say about this."
I am new to the Saab following so I can't speak for the past. I am a big fan of our 2003 Aero Wagon. We bought it over an Audi Allroad even with the Audi AWD advantage. The Audi has a wonderful interior and great exterior styling, the inside is a class to itself. This made it a tough choice, but the reliability issues loomed large for us. Comparing the Saab to the BMW 3 series & 5 Series wagons and MB C-Class wagons, it's just a better value period. IMHO the handling & interior on those two makes don't justify the significant price hike.
We bought the Saab for lot's of great reasons: it's features/size/value; it's styling inside and out; it's comfortable seats; it's reputation for safety; it's improving reliability per Consumer Reports; it's strong drivetrain;, it's improved driving dynamics per mag reviews and personal drives, and the bonus was it's good gas mileage. Plus it's just plain fast.
#1685 of 2237 Free at Last; Free at Last
Apr 04, 2004 (6:28 pm)
Paulr11, I think that it is bit much that you had to appropriate Dr. King's message when discussing a Saab. But, in any case, why did you keep the damn thing so long? I mean, 100K and 5 years is a long time to hate something.
Without more specifics, I don't think that a few "thousands" of dollars of repairs would be out of line on a high mileage import. (Brakes, tires, shocks/struts, some a. c. work, an alternator, starter, a couple of batteries, and maybe $1000 in miscellaneous would be par for 100K.) Should you disagree, I encourage you to cruise over to the Mercedes E Class Board and see what a luxury import costs.
#1686 of 2237 rust on wheels?
Apr 21, 2004 (4:45 pm)
Hey, the bolts on the front wheels of my wagon are starting to rust badly and further inside the wheels too. My car is only 1.5 years old and I'm in So Cal -- it looks like there is some kind of recall related to rust on wheels for the Arc (02), and I'm planning on taking it in next week. Just wondering if anyone else had this problem.
#1687 of 2237 Re: rust on wheels? [nelsoncm #1686]
May 03, 2004 (8:21 pm)
Saab probably buys their bolts from the same vendor as Volvo! Mine rusted after 2 years (S60) and Volvo replaced them all under warranty. Just take your Saab to your dealer and ask about it. These are just cheap Cadmium-plated bolts which start rusting as soon as a tire wrench bungs the plating.
#1688 of 2237 New 9-5 Aero electronics
May 08, 2004 (9:02 am)
Okay, just want to see if anyone else has had any problems with the new 9-5 Aero. I bought it less then a month ago (March 2004) and had the engine light go on the day I bought it and now the warning, abs and another safety light went on. I really love the car and the way it drives and am not sure what to do. Also, twice I got locked into my car and the driver side locks would not unlock. The dealership service department has had the car more than I have now. Any ideas or thoughts? Has this happened to anyone? The dealership keeps telling me its connectors, but I don't know anything.
#1689 of 2237 Re: New 9-5 Aero electronics [smk #1688]
May 11, 2004 (9:13 pm)
Wow. That's a fine howdy doo. I'm just an admirer of the 9-5 model. I wouldn't consider a new one until they offer side curtain bags for rear seats. Hence am considering a used Arc 2002, to ease into one without dropping a lot of cash. Incredible lack of modern safety equipment for a $36,000 car, but a beautiful machine no less. Others have complained about frequent blown tires and bent rims, lack of available snow tires or replacements on the Aero's 17s. Nobody has been complaining about these particular electrical glitches. Hope they can fix it for ya.