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Saab 9-5, Sedan
Nov 17, 2003 (8:56 am)
I just did the same thing with my 2002 325xi. I put directional tires on my car (Michelin Pilot Sport A/S) and my car pulls right too.
I was told by several vendors and mechanics that directional tires can do that. So I'm planning on doing a rotation front to rear on my right side to see if that fixes the problem. If not, I'll be trying the same thing on the left. If that doesn't fix it, I'll not be using directional tires anymore.
But I'm looking for a luxury sport sedan. I have been looking at the BMW 5, Lincoln LS V8, and the upcoming Cadillac STS.
My coworker has an older Saab and has done a lot of work on it. How do the new 9-3 and 9-5's compare quality wise now that they are owned by GM? How about service, reliability, quality of materials, etc?
I'm keeping my mind open to my new car, and wanted to be more informed about the Saab line.
Also what are the main diffs between the 9-3 and -5? Is AWD an option on either?
Nov 19, 2003 (7:51 am)
My experience with Saab has been extremely poor. My '99 9-5 has been the least reliable and worst new car (out of 10) that I have ever purchased. If you do buy a Saab I hope you live near the dealer's service department since you will get to know them very well. The repairs are expensive and numerous so an extended warantee is essential in my view. My experience with the Saab dealer has not been good and Saab USA (Atlanta) customer service really doesn't help at all. In fact they are on the edge of user hostile.
I have a major decision to make. (1) Keep this unreliable money pit and make numerous repair trips. The latest failure is "believed" to a simple flapper in the climate control system which will require about 6-8 hours of labor to take out about half the engine to replace a $5 part. (2) Trade it in on anything else but a Saab. (3) Find someone I do not like and sell them the car. (4) Emulate Col. Potter in MASH who put an end to his jeep's misery by shooting it with his pistol.
Frankly, the Saab is overdesigned and overcomplicated plus poorly built resulting in unreliability. The addition of GM to the mix is not additive. Any personal touch seems to have been lost. These have been my experiences with my first and last Saab.
#1593 of 2237 tires pulling
Nov 19, 2003 (7:45 pm)
it sounds like the belt on one of your tires is out of line and ,or did not set properly when the tire was built.
you may need a new tire.
this happened to me once when i bought 4 tires in one of those discount places......they usually get off quality tires.
#1594 of 2237 Saab reliability
Nov 20, 2003 (4:00 pm)
It's one of the most commonly discussed topics in here. Please read back a few dozen posts and you'll find plenty of info.
#1595 of 2237 maintenace included
Nov 20, 2003 (6:55 pm)
it makes a lot of sense, especially with leased vehicles. people are more likely to bring in the car at service intervals if i doesn't cost them any money out of their pocket; and if the car is turned in at the end of the lease, the service history is there. i think volvo has now adopted this.
#1596 of 2237 Saab Reliability & Sabb Aero vs Others
Nov 25, 2003 (2:06 pm)
Saab Reliability -
We have been fortunate since we purchased a 2003 Aero Wagon. I have read that prior to 2002 the (-5 could be hit or miss. We have had ours for 1 year in December and have not had one single problem.
Saab Aero vs Others -
This is tough, as I am a big Saab fan. But there are some nice sedans out there. I like our Saab as a freeway cruiser but not particularly as a canyon carver. To cover miles on a freeway you can't beat the Saab; Benz, BMW, Audi, Volvo, Jag it doesn't matter. Unless you are talking AMG, M Models, S models, Type R models in those brands you will not find a smoother, faster car with 30 mpg. I have had several new Benz 420's, Audi 3.0's, 530's try to show off and they have been humbled. 0-60 is not blinding but 60-120+ is very fast.
Now if you have to always take the canyon home I might go with another car. The Saab is not terrible but it is not damped particularly firmly. It tracks well but there is some float over uneven turns, and you hit bump stops on bumpy curves. I think it competes very well with the base levels of Benz C/E class, Audi A6, BMW 530/540, but no way with the AMG, S or M models. This is not even mentioning the G35 or the new Acura TL which are super nice also.
Having said that I would probably get the BMW 530i Sedan with sport package, or the G35 with Sport package/AWD or the new Acura TL if I wanted to canyon carve.
I think the Saab Aero needs stiffer springs and it would be an exceptional handler. There are some springs I might buy and I will report back.
Dec 12, 2003 (7:25 am)
I know this is the Saab 9-5 thread, but I'm curious what you all think of the new Saabaru 9-2x? Afterall, you all (and 9-3 owners too) probably represent true Saab owners feelings about what Saabs should be? Are you for it, or against it?
There's a lot of discussion over on the Subaru forms about this vehicle. A lot of people like it, and a lot don't.
BTW, there is a 9-2x thread here at Edmunds, if you rather post your comments over there.
#1598 of 2237 RE: Just curious
Dec 13, 2003 (8:28 am)
Well.. I'm not a huge fan of Badge engineering which is basically what they are doing here.. but... Having said that.. the Subaru WRX is an Awesome drivers car. The problem with it is very bland styling for an otherwise exciting drive.
If Saab styling and engineering can make a few improvements and transform it into a more exciting vehicle.... It could be a very viable car to consider. I'm anxious to see what they do with it.
Dec 13, 2003 (9:51 am)
As you can see, it's nothing more than a 2.0 WRX wagon with a Saab nose. The interior has some parts from the Forester (center dash panel) and the steering wheel from the upcoming all-new Legacy. The seats, interior door panels and rear hatch are also unique to the 9-2x. Other than that it's pure WRX, if you get the turbo (Aero) model. The non-turbo Linear model is a tweaked Impreza 2.5TS wagon. Also, there is no signature Saab ignition switch on the floor.
Pricing is reportedly going to run from $22K - $30K. For $30K you will probably be able to get the all-new 2.5 Legacy turbo, which will certainly be a much nicer car.
#1600 of 2237 Need Help: 2001 9-5 SE vs. 2002 ARC
Dec 14, 2003 (6:04 am)
Selling my bmw 3 series and getting into saab wagon. What are main differences between 2001 9-5 SE and 2002 Arc with same engine?
I know of 4 speed versus 5 speed, exterior revisions and different wood interior and stiffer suspension. Is the new suspension much stiffer? anything else of importance.