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Saab 9-5, Sedan
Jun 23, 2003 (11:01 am)
We're looking to replace our 1997 Subaru Outback Limited Wagon with a car within the $30-$36K range... local Infiniti dealers are offering the FX35 for about $36K while we can pick up a 9-5 Arc for about $32K... I know these two are VERY different cars, and we were originally going to just go with the Infiniti, but we have had a long string of Japanese cars and wouldn't mind something new. However, the reliability of the Saab is questionable apparently, and that is not a strong selling point for a family of 4 with 3 drivers... we also own a 2001 Acura TL and love it very dearly, however we're looking for a car with more "character." The Saab, I know, has unmistakable charm, but the Infiniti is "out there" also. Any suggestions? Go for yet ANOTHER Japanese car for reliability or go for the Saab for an equal amount of charm with maybe a few more problems down the road?
#1475 of 2237 I went from Infiniti to Saab
Jun 23, 2003 (11:11 am)
After reading your post it seems like you are on a certain wavelength when it comes to cars and style/image. Many people consider Subaru the Saab of Japan. And I equate Infiniti with Saab in many ways. So I don't think your thought process is out of whack - it makes perfect sense to me.
My previous Infiniti, a QX4, was great in many ways. But my current 9-5 SE (same as an Arc) has cost me about the same $$ in service costs. My Saab has not been perfect. The Infiniti wasn't perfect. But both were excellent vehicles that offered a personality different from what everyone else is driving.
If you live in an area with good local service, any reliability worries can be taken care of. You might want to search around for local Saab specialists and try to find out if the local dealer is any good. I'm sure you well know your local Infiniti dealer.
FWIW, I helped my mother buy a new car recently. Based on what she wanted, a 9-5 would have been perfect. Yet I recommended she pass on a Saab because where she lives there is no Saab dealer for almost 100 miles. What did she get? An Infiniti I35.
Hope this helps.
Jun 30, 2003 (8:51 am)
I just had an experience that may be relevant. I drive an I35, and was helping a friend buy a new car. We drove the FX35, and she ended up with a 9-5 Linear Wagon. BTW: The dealer's opening price was $6500 below MSRP. One other car you might consider is the Nissan Murano. I felt it drove a bit better than the FX35, possibly due to the accelerator calibration when mated with the CVT transmission, and the styling isn't quite as imposing as the FX35's. Plus, it's cheaper.
#1478 of 2237 Have had my Saab Linear 9-5 for 4 months
Jul 09, 2003 (7:22 am)
4 months ago I finally got a Saab. I have always wanted one and with the great discounts being offered my husband agreed that now was the time to get one. I love how sporty the car is, how well it handles and its speed (I traded in a Lincoln Navigator for it - big change!!)
Unfortunately I am having several problems that I am hoping are not indicative of how the ownership of this car will be in the future. The first "problem" was that the passenger side visor broke within the 1st 2 weeks I had it. Not a big deal - just a minor annoyance. But then about a month ago I got in the car and the ESP light came on on the dashboard and never went off. I stopped the car, turned it off and then back on. The light went out. I thought maybe I had accidently hit the button or something. A week later I started the car and left my house. I noticed as I was driving down the road that none of the odometers were working - no speed, no fuel, no tac, nothing, although the car was working fine. Again, I stopped the car, turned it off and restarted. Everything was fine. I haven't had any issues since, but my fear is that it is a symptom of a larger or persistent problem. To make matters worse, my dealer is 60 miles away (I have been told that they are trying to get one in my home town). But I certainly don't want to have to drive out to the dealer on an ongoing basis to resolve issues like these.
Has anyone else had any issues with the 2003 Linear 9-5?
#1479 of 2237 Re: Linear, 4 months old
Jul 09, 2003 (8:55 am)
The issues you're describing don't sound like common problems for a late model 9-5. Did you already take it to the Saab dealer for the 1,000-mile checkup?
Perhaps take it to a local GM dealer or AutoZone to see if the diagnostic computer is showing any codes.
#1480 of 2237 RE: Hilstroy
Jul 14, 2003 (5:45 am)
We have our second 9-5 and have never had reliability problems and VERY few annoyance problems.
I do have a thought as to what may have happened with your Gauges going out: If this happened during day light hours, it could be that somehow you had inadvertantly hit the "Night Panel" button on the dash and you didn't notice. This would cause all the gauges to shut down as well as turning off their lighting. The only gauge that would function would be the speedometer. If you didn't activate the feature somehow by mistake, your computer could have a malfunction that activated it. If that's the case, don't fret. I simple change out under warranty will fix the trouble and you'll be good to go with an explaination and fix for all your problems. You can expect years of reliable service based on my two previous 9-5's
FWIW.. I think the Night Panel is a wonderful feature. I use this alot when I have to drive long distances at night. I activate it and then Dim the panel lights remaining and it creates a much more comfortable environment for late night drives on Dark Highways.
#1481 of 2237 Saab Wagon vs Infinit FX35
Jul 14, 2003 (10:34 am)
Tough Choice. I am a Saab fan (Aero Owner) but I love the FX35/45 (AWD, Good engine, Cool Styling). If you can get a good price on the FX35 take it. If sportiness + gas mileage is high on your list then Saab Aero is the way to go. The reliability should be even or to Saab if you have good local dealers.
#1482 of 2237 rip offs and travel insurance
Jul 19, 2003 (5:08 pm)
well ,took my saab for the 60000 mile service at a dealer in vermont.....
the price list said $448. for 60,000 mile service
i asked 3 times if it included all of the items that had to be replaced........
to make story short.........when i picked up car i noticed that the serpentine belt was not done, the auto transm. fluid was not done,and they failed to reset the check engine lite.
when i asked why i was told that they inspected it and it was in good shape......no need to replace........even thou i had paid for it in the $448 charge ,as listed on the board in the service dept.
when i suggested i would talk to a lawyer they walked away..........saying that i had used the word lawyer......
i then spoke to one of the owners and explained that he and i had entered into a contractual agreement .....and that he failed to live up to it...............
after 20 minutes of pointing out the merits of my position he agreed to and did all of the work....
to add ,i had asked them to mount 4 new michelin mxm tires ( i got from tire rack ) to replace my oe tires with 60,000 miles on them .they agreed.........they did not tell me that they sent the tires out to an outside contractor..........
the wheels came back damaged......all chewed up.......one needs replacement...........again i reminded them that my agreement was with them and not the outside contractor..........i got a new wheel.........
but,as i drove home ,i blew a new tire.........it happens that they did not replace the valve stem....with a new one.......and it developed a leak due to damage from the installation.......
i did not noticed it until the tire blew up......
so,i had to get a new tire............
and of course,the balance was off so i had to re-do it........all 4 again.
so people,when you bring your saab in for service,ask and inspect......over and over again......
by the way,i bought a new di casette as suggested somewhere here......i now carry this in my car because i drive to fla. quite often and would hate to have this fail somewhere and have to visit a saab dealer .......
..and i have now learned that a number of 9.5 2001 have experienced failure of the turbo at about 19 to 21,000 miles......under warranty.....
#1483 of 2237 RE: Rips off
Jul 19, 2003 (7:57 pm)
That doesn't sound like the Typical Saab dealer to me.. Lets hope your experience is more unusual than common. I have always been extremely happy with my dealer. I've been dealing with them for over 8 years now.
Okay... so.. what is a di cassette and why do I need to keep a spare with me?