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#1402 of 2237 Recall Notice
Apr 10, 2003 (4:09 pm)
I have finally moved out of my 2000 Saab 9-5SE and into my MB C320. What an improvement in quality.
Apparently, Saab does not realize that they took my 9-5 back two months ago and sent me a recall notice on the 9-5.
If I have this right, Saab is claiming that the nuts and bolts that hold the tires on the 9-5 can "rust through" and break if certain types of wheels (made of certain types of materials) are used on the car. Rust through? Are they serious? I guess so if they sent a recall notice out. I am not sure whether to applaud them for their safety concerns or to wonder about the quality controls on the materials that went into the production process. I just skimmed the recall notice. Maybe a better explanation is in order.
#1403 of 2237 RE: Recall
Apr 10, 2003 (5:15 pm)
First of all, recall notices commonly go to a previous owner until the manufacturer receives information on the new owner. It's not a Saab thing and not unreasonable to expect this kind of thing to happen.
Second, If you take a minute to read the Recall you'd learn that the Wheel Rust issue is ONLY for owners who use the Practice of Mounting Steel Wheels during the winter months with snow tires. (not necessarily a Saab Wheel) There is NO issue with the Saab Factory Wheels at all.
It's likely something to do with the different metal types contacting each other. Your implication of Poor Quality Control was unfair.
Read the facts before making an implication. Most of these situations involve owners purchasing a Wheel/ Tire combo for the winter from a source like TireRack.. You should applaud Saab for taking the Time and Expense to educate their owners. Saab may not have even had an obligation to send this information out. I wonder if Mercedes has done this. It's a common practice for Mercedes owners in the Snow Belt too.
Apr 10, 2003 (10:22 pm)
That's hard to understand. The wheels studs have to be steel, so I can't see where there would be an issue with galvanic corrosion due to dissimilar metals. If anything, there would be an issue with aluminum wheels.
#1405 of 2237 Thank you dski
Apr 11, 2003 (9:29 am)
DSKI, I am glad to see after a long absence as an active participant on this board that you still personally attack anyone who states anything negative about a saab. It is "interesting" how your comments were first aimed at attacking the messenger and trying to defend the recall notice rather than first addressing the true problem (which I suggested that someone with better knowledge should do). After reading your post, it appears that you may believe that the recall notice was a positive publicity instrument for Saab because it shows that Saab cares about its customers. Recall notices are documents approved by legal departments that are intended to prevent a company from being sued when someone later gets injured and it can be shown that the company knew about the defect ahead of time. It is possible, just possible dski, that maybe there was a manufacturer's defect here. It did not make any owners of firestone tires any more comfortable when they were told that the blowouts only occurred if the tires were underinflated. If nuts and bolts that hold the tires on are susceptible to rust, that may concern me, regardless of whether I use wheels of certain compositions that may accelerate the rust. What about those that will own their Saabs for 20 years and may get exposure to many types of road materials that could cause a rust problem? I agree with the last post that it is difficult to understand this problem based on a simple understanding of principles of chemistry.
I wish I could stay with you, dski, in the Saab discussion to continue to watch you monitor the comments of all saab owners, but as I stated, I moved on to my MB, and with that I must leave you to your self-appointed position as guardian of all comments on this board.
Peace to all.
#1407 of 2237 RE: Wheels
Apr 11, 2003 (10:42 am)
>>That's hard to understand. The wheels studs have to be steel, so I can't see where there would be an issue with galvanic corrosion due to dissimilar metals. If anything, there would be an issue with aluminum wheels<<
It's not hard at all IMO. Read the notice. The issue is with the Steel Wheels. The steel wheels for winter use are typically Cheap ones used to save the wear on your Good ones. The issue is likely more about the wheels than the Saab Hubs or wheel studs. The cheap wheels probably start rusting transferring the corrosion.
There may still be a dissimilar metal issue if the corrossion is starting on the aftermarket Wheel but it doesn't matter. I'm just saying I don't think it fair to blame Saab on this one.
#1408 of 2237 don't worry, guys
Apr 12, 2003 (6:16 am)
Saaber will have his hands more than full when his C-class starts crapping out on him. It ain't one of the more reliable cars in its class.
If you run into Zeuslewis in one of the forums, ask him about all the lemon law cases involving Mercedes and the C-class. Lemon law claims are thru the roof with that car. And MB isn't too cooperative with consumers when it comes time to settle; ya almost always gotta take them to court.
Saab's are rarely involved in lemon law claims and Saab USA has a rep of bending over backwards to settle claims and satisfy customers.
The C-class may very well be the worst car in its class when considering the above issues.
#1409 of 2237 RE: Sabber
Apr 12, 2003 (6:40 am)
Congratulations, I don't have any idea about the reliability of the C-Class but I think all the Variants of that car are Beautiful. I hope it meets all of your expectations and your finally happy with your car choices.
#1410 of 2237 Saab 95 wheel bearings
Apr 14, 2003 (9:59 am)
We have a 2000 Saab 95 with 55,000 miles on it (it's actually my wife's car). I was just told by the dealer that both front wheel bearings need to be replaced at a cost of approximately $350.00 each. When I asked why they had to be replaced so early in the car's life, the service representative mumbled something about possibly hitting a few potholes. This seems a bit suspicious to me. Has anyone had similar problems?
#1411 of 2237 RE: Bearings
Apr 14, 2003 (10:50 am)
Our first 9-5 was a lease and turned in before 55K. I didn't have a bearing problem but that's not to say I wouldn't have.
One issue I did have that ticked me off a little was an unusual wear on the rear Rotors. They had to be replaced. It was pricey and in retrospect, I should have complained loudly about it. If it happens on our new one, you can bet I will.