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#1359 of 2237 question - curious with respect to answers
Feb 21, 2003 (11:07 am)
Hi everyone - It has been a while since I've been on this website (edmunds), and this is my first posting in the saab board. I went through about 100 previous posts, and I'm wondering if any of you would comment on whether I got a good deal or not...
I bought a new 2001 Saab 9-5 (equivalent to today's linear) with all the options (heated and cooled front seats, HK stereo, auto transmission, etc etc.) in early september last year. The car had 50 miles and was not a demo. I paid ~ $28k. Was this too much?? I thought I read that somebody paid or was offered a '03 9-5 linear for $29.9k.
It has been a great car so far : )
#1360 of 2237 Re: question - curious
Feb 21, 2003 (12:48 pm)
That doesn't sound too bad, actually. I couldn't tell you what incentives were available at the time, though.
If I had waited a couple months to buy my 9-5 the cash-back incentive would've been $2,000 more than what I got, but I can't concern myself with what could've been. You make the best deal you can at the time and go with it.
At any rate, just enjoy your car. I do.
Feb 22, 2003 (12:13 am)
This is easy.
Saab residuals (Reality ones.. not what Chase and Saab dream up) are very soft for a reason:
Crap marketing. This means that GM in their infinite foolishness has to rely on dramatic subsidies to sell these cars.
$400/mo, Nothing down? $40K European Large Luxury car? Gee, that's not such a tough thing to sell now is it?
I think that if GM Marketed the cars the way Saab did when they were owned by the swedes, things would improve. In Europe Saabs have a reputation for iron-clad reliability/durability as well as having strong resale value. But then they are marketed properly there.
For god's sake look at the damn 9-5 linear! It's HUGE, Very safe, VERY comfortable, the LPT 4cyl gets damn near 30 on the highway! And even at MSRP vs Invoice it's still VERY Cheap for what it is!
Instead we get $349 a month, come on down!
There's your problem guys...
#1362 of 2237 RE: Brent
Feb 22, 2003 (11:27 am)
Well perhapse GM should create a better marketing pland but to suggest Saab did it better on their own is crazy. As slow as sales are, they are still well above where they were in the pre-GM days. I don't recall any marketing before GM actually. I'm guessing it was all done in the North East to Pointy Headed accentric College Professors back in those days.
#1363 of 2237 SAAB marketing
Feb 22, 2003 (8:07 pm)
I'd say SAAB's marketing is like IBM's - if IBM invented sushi, they'd market it as "raw, dead, cold fish" (just like they market iSeries, formerly known as AS/400 - ever heard of those computers??? they're the best there is, no kidding) . . . the sad thing is that they seem to be selling the deal and not the car. BMW for instance is selling the car, and they get away with getting 40K+ for option 3-series, made in South Africa. Yuck.
BTW, just today a friend of mine, who drives BMW 540 (2 years old, 6 speed) told me that the only car he's ever missed badly after sellign it was 9000 turbo (a few years ago), he still thinks it is the best car he's ever had.
#1364 of 2237 good point, tomekk
Feb 23, 2003 (7:57 am)
SAAB should be spending money on building is brand image in the US like BMW and Mercedes has done for decades.
But SAAB (and GM) are desperate to sell cars to keep the factories moving so they have to revert to "selling the deal" instead of "selling the image". Deal selling gets immediate results, image selling takes decades. SAAB needs results.
There was a time that BMW was seen as a cheap alternative to the "premium" Euro brands like Mercedes and Jaguar. It's taken BMW the better part of 30 years to convince brand-concious Americans to pay full sticker for their cars and be happy doing so.
SAAB needs to sell cars. They need to stop losing money. Once that's done they need to expand their model line. Then they can work on improving the brand. Mercedes Benz is one of the 10 most recognized and valuable brands in the world. It will take SAAB decades to emulate this performance. But first SAAB needs to get thru the next 24 months business plan.
#1365 of 2237 Marketing
Feb 23, 2003 (2:07 pm)
Well guys, if you watch ESPN during the next few weeks with all the College Basketball going on, you'll see some great Saab Ads. They have a great commercial for the new 9-3. Saab/GM is advertising out there. We don't always see it because of their narrow Demographic target in the short term I think. I'm in their demographic though. College Football and Basketball seems to be a recent trend for them.
Feb 24, 2003 (10:05 pm)
Now this is making me nutty. Bret stopped by my store last week (Great to meet ya!) and has me puzzled.
2 Months or so ago, I sold an '00 Aero 5-Speed. It was a sort of Slate Green, a grayish muddyish green.. very very pretty color. It was NOT Blue or Scarab Green.
Was this maybe a special order Euro color? i think I have seen it on Saabs in Europe.
#1367 of 2237 snow tires package
Feb 25, 2003 (5:57 pm)
have been out of here for a while. the car is now going on 3.5 years--2000 aero--
and very happy so far .great handler.
but on the snow tire package which is a good deal be careful...i just got burned today.
the gislaved tires are hard to find and when i blew one out this am on the way from ct. to vermont i ended up going to the dealer in hartford ct.
no one had theses tires in stock except for the dealer---and the new series 3 are uni-directional.but the problem with mine is that to buy the tire the dealer forced me to buy the wheel also...........$275.00 total bill for one snow tire that sells for about $80.00----or,wait 3 days for them or a local tire store to get one.
i could have returned home but the spare is not that good . so now i have a spare wheel which i will use to buy a spare all wheather tire and throw away the donut which stinks.
so,when you buy the tire/wheel combo,think about it before you do.
#1368 of 2237 full size spare for the 9.5
Feb 28, 2003 (3:14 pm)
after my last post i went out and got a 215-55-16 all weather tire to use as a full time spare instead of the donught tire.
advantages -------the donut is a pain due to its limitations --150 miles range at about 55 mph....
this is enough to get you to a local tire or saab dealer.
but,my experience with 3 tire damages is that the tires that come with the 9.5 either snow or regular are not easily found everywhere and you may have to wait 1 or 2 or 3 days to get the replacement.and pay a premium due to the last minute purchase.
if you are on a trip you are out of luck......
so,i decided to purchase a size that matches the snow tire size since i had the spare 16 inch wheel
and because the overall diameter of the tire matches the regular tire also i will have no problem in mixing this size with the regular tires.
the tire fits about right in the trunk where the donut used to be.---you do have to remove the spacer where the jack is and place the jack back in the space----take a look and you will figure it out.
the cover falls fine over the spare tire but there is about 1/4 of an inch or less of an overhang but i can live with it ...hardly noticiable.------worth the peace of mind on a trip.