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Saab 9-5, Sedan
#1290 of 2237 Saab Aero or Maxima SE?
Dec 27, 2002 (9:15 am)
Was planning on another Saab, this time buying an Aero (I have a 2000 9-5 SE coming up to lease-end). Local dealer still has a new 2002 Aero 5-spd that he offered for $31,500 (MSRP is $40K and change). This includes $500 owner loyalty and what I think is a hefty discount. Am concerned only about the reputed turbo lag and sloppy shifting, which my brief test drive seemed to confirm. Car is outstanding otherwise.
My son convinced me to test drive a 2003 Maxima SE 6-spd, which I did. Smooth, quiet, powerful and luxurious. It had none of Saab's quirkiness or intelligent engineering touches, and the warranty is less attractive (3yr/36,000 vs. 4yr/50,000 plus roadside). But this car really performs, and I was surprised at how much I liked it. The dealer's first offer was $26K (MSRP is $30,600), which I think can come down more if I get serious. I need a backseat and trunk space, otherwise I'd look at the Z or G35 for Saab money.
Is this a fair comparison? The $6-7K price difference is significant in this class, but 20% off the Aero is also compelling. I want to own and drive for 4-5 years. Or am I comparing Swedish apples and Japanese oranges? All thoughts are welcome.
Dec 27, 2002 (11:17 am)
ejh00.. I know what you are going through. I too have a 200 Saab 9-5 and my lease comes up in a few months. I've been doing some heavy research and have narrowed my picks to the following:
Saab 9-5 Aero wagon,Volvo XC70,Subaru Outback H.6. I'm looking for a wagon as you can see and these are the choices that make the most sense to me. Obviously the Saab is the sports car of the bunch and I'll talk about that in a moment.
My newphew just purchased a 03 Maxima and I test drove it. Like you,I was mesmerized by the speed and sheer acceleration that it produces. Having said that,the rest of the experience left me wanting more. I can't put my finger on it but it just seemed to get boring after about 5 minutes of driving it. If you are looking for a reliable,fast car I think the Maxima will be superior to the Saab although besides some battery issues with my car, I can't complain too much. It's been very reliable. It will be a tough choice,I know.Also,you will be able to do much better on price with the max.
Back to my situation,I like idea of leasing something else this time but I know there is an 80% chance that I will end up with another Saab.
Why?? I think you know the reasons so I won't go into it. The fact that I will be a return customer should also be favorable so I may as well give in and go and put my order in for my
9-5 Aero wagon.. A red one sounds good..
Good luck and let me know your thoughts as well.
#1292 of 2237 I don't think there is much comparison
Dec 27, 2002 (12:30 pm)
But buy the car you like. You'll have to spend the next 5 years paying for it, might as well get something desirable.
Some time ago I posted some comments about the 9-5 vs. Acura TL. You might want to scroll back and look for them.
Part of me thinks its terribly sad that people compare the 9-5 to mainstream Asian cars when SAAB should be compared against Audi, Volvo, etc. Maybe not MBz or BMW but at least something close. If nothing else it helps Nissan's marketing dept justify price increases. I mean, if the average person can't tell the diff between one and the other, why not raise the price $5000 and stick it to them?
I feel sorry for all the suckers kicking down $27,000+ for a Honda Accord. But ignorance is bliss, especially when it comes to buying a new car.
#1293 of 2237 saab aero or maxima se
Dec 27, 2002 (11:42 pm)
if money is no object, i'd take the aero anyday.
the maxima is a really good car with an outstanding engine, roomy inside, nice fit and finish, and 6 speed manual tranny (although, nissan's stick is not as slick as say a honda or bmw). also, it's due for a redesign and therefore, all the kinks and bugs should have been ironed out and there should be ample incentives when buying the car. and the maxima is historically very reliable. however, the ride is a bit stiff and not as pleasant or as comfortable as the saab. the doors don't close with a reassuring solid "thud" as saabs do. some safety ratings are not as good as the saabs (iihs, nhtsa, etc.)
the saab 9-5 aero is much more fun to drive.
it may not have an engine as smooth running as the vq series v-6 in the maxima, but the overall driving experience is sublime. it has that elusive european feel on the road - solid, satisfying ride. the doors close with tank-like firmness. the ride is firm, taut, compliant but not uncomfortable, stiff or jittery. and you don't see one in every corner.
the price they gave you on the aero is a steal.
got mine 3 months ago for much more than that.
buy what you really want.
let us know which one you end up choosing.
either way, good luck.
#1294 of 2237 cabbattan2
Dec 28, 2002 (5:45 pm)
Careful with going from a 9-5 to a XC70. If you like the ride, handling and tightness of the Saab, you will be disappointed with the Volvo. I have both a 9-5 and V70 (although a GLT). The Volvo is a good comfortable highway cruiser but the Saab a better driver. I am now looking at upgrading my Volvo front end bits to tighten it up some.
Take the Volvo for a good test drive and make sure it suits your driving style. Better yet see if you can get your hands on a rental with some hard miles on it.
Both cars have been very reliable with only minor problems.
#1295 of 2237 price to pay? (copy from wagon's post)
Dec 29, 2002 (11:12 pm)
thinking about getting one of these...price is a question. i undertand that there is a lot of dealer cash out there right now...what should i expect to pay for an '03 aero wagon? carsdirect says $35,961, but i expect that i can do better?
#1296 of 2237 Bought the Aero
Dec 31, 2002 (7:08 am)
After debating over Aero vs Maxima SE and a few others, yesterday I bought the '02 Aero. Dealer offered an under-$30K price for a new '02 with auto and touring, zero miles. The bargain price was based on a few factors, but mainly the fact that the car is Laser Red. Now there's a distinctive vehicle! There are some factory incentives (plenty, it seems), 2.9 financing for 48 mos, and the year-end push helped. But in the end they just didn't want the car on the lot any longer, and I was ready to buy. Black or Cosmic Blue would have been nice, but not $4K nice. Taking delivery Jan. 2. See you on the roads!
Dec 31, 2002 (11:02 am)
What those "few factors" are? Getting a $42,000 car for less than $30,000 is quite a feat. I think sharing the details would be rather helpful to those of us looking to get a $12,000 discount on a new car.
#1298 of 2237 Thinking about an AERO 03
Dec 31, 2002 (8:15 pm)
I'm in the market for a new Vehicle and am on the fence regarding the Audi A6 or the Aero 95. I was impressed with the A6 2.7T but it was a bit expensive $46K, the A6 3.0 just did not handle the way I expected it should for $38K. I then drove the Aero and was very impressed with the handling and turbo but, after doing some research the 9-5 received some mixed reviews. I was wondering if someone could give me some feed back one way or another on the 9-5.
Also, I was given a ball park of about $36k for a 2003 ($42MSRP)
Thanks for your time...
Jan 01, 2003 (8:01 am)
There are 1297 posts before yours. Lots of info here about the 9-5 including some 9-5 v. A6 comparos. Do a search on it (find the Search Box in the grey column on the left).