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#1120 of 2237 2002 9-5 Linear Rocks ! - good number - and funk !
Jun 28, 2002 (9:35 pm)
I just picked up my new 9-5 linear - (black/ charcoal interior) automatic premium package. ( June 27, 2002 )
The Audi A4 fell off my list as it is small - and feels cheap. I would never buy a car in 2002 without Telematics on it - and if you want Onstar in an Audi - better be prepared to drop 5K on options !!! Build your own Audi. ? .. hmmm it should say : build your own - pay MSRP and wait 4 months.
If you live in New Haven CT, you will also experience the uglyliest Audi dealer I have ever seen in my life. It's located in Wallingford CT with 5 brands crammed into a shack like warehouse building.. The sad Audi rings are spray painted on metal mesh and is falling off the building....... very very funny. Oh yes the sales team - well lets just say you will hop on a time machine and vist the 1970's.... in my opinion these people could also be selling knives... siding....vacuums .. it makes no difference....... and I have never been on a test drive where I was explaining how a car works. ! - this guy was a senior sales guy...)
OK - moving along - dumping Audi off the list - I gave the 9-5 Linear a test drive and loved it. The first dealer in Connecticut quoted me 34K and initially would not get me the above color combo. I called dealer #2 up the road and immediately got a quote of 31.5 K ( less tax and documents ) plus the color combo I wanted (he had to bring it in from Hartford). The first dealer obviously did not tell me about the rebate and wanted to take advantage of me so I did not mind driving 30 miles to dealer #2. Im sure I could have got dealer #2 down even more ( 30k even ) however I think I got a decent price on this regardless. Bewarned that CarsDirect quoted me 34K.... so even this highly rated online source is cashing on in this hidden deal...
The best part of the purchase was being pre financed via PeopleFirst.Com . I walked into the dealer and the salesperson gave me absolutely zero attitude ( no the undercoating - no extended warranty chat just the keys waiting and polished 9-5 with 35 miles on it. I wrote the amount in the preapproved check- signed some other forms and I was out the door in 30 minutes.
Things I love about this car:
- Despite being a four cylinder I love the speed and handling.
- Quality Quality - Quality - the doors shut like a vault and it feels like 40K car. ( I can not say this about the many A4s I test drove )
- Premium Stereo rocks
- Love the room in this car the A4 was like a little box compared to this
- Onstar is great cant believe you would buy a car with out it.
- Great traction - it was pouring last night and this car handles very well on slippery surfaces
- Not having to use premium gas will save me mondo.
Not too happy:
- the 3-year maintenance seems a bit thin - should be 4 to match warranty and include a few more bells and whistles
- I may look at replacing the wood dash to Aluminum and give the car a bit more of an edge (has anyone done this yet)
Global Saab suggestions
- Get a new website - the current US one sucks and almost turned me away from this great car.
- XM satellite radio should be an option in all 2002 Saabs a total no brainier. A further perk could be a free XM Saab channel if one doesnt want to spend the 10 bucks a month.
Overall Im very happy - I feel I have purchased something unique - well built with good value. I hope the A4 owners enjoy the 37K Jetta
#1121 of 2237 Head Gasket-Again
Jun 29, 2002 (5:19 am)
Well, I took the car back to the diagnosing dealer yesterday. He showed me where the leak was and indeed it is slightly leaking oil. He said the problem is that it's leaking onto the belt which could cause problems and is why he is recommending a fix. I asked point blank "So, do I have a blown head gasket" and he admitted that no, that's not what I have. I have a slight leak that could get worse sooner rather than later and probably should be taken care of sooner. So, since Saab has agreed to pay for the work and they have agreed to loan me a car, I'm going to do it.
#1122 of 2237 RE: dan_pat
Jun 29, 2002 (9:13 am)
Happy to see you've discovered the finer points of the 9-5. Good choice as you've discovered. Keep up with that Black. I got Steel grey and love it. I've also grown to like the wood dash.
Couple notes: Although the 3year maintenance may seem thin, you have to remember it is NOT really free. They could increase the time and coverage but ultimately the cost shows up in the purchase price. You got a Great price. The savings is better in your pocket now rather than paying for 5 years of wiper blades up front.
XM would be nice. Saab is putting it in the new upcoming 9-3 which appears to be an AMAZING car from what I've seen so far. I've already seen the full brochure and we may actually be regreting not waiting for it. It is much better equipped and will leap frog over the competition finally in it's Class.
I loved your idea of a Saab Channel on the XM radio. I have not experienced XM yet. Are Manufacturers creating their own channels?
I also love the On-Star system. I do wish they would offer a more competitive package and ability to use a Portible phone like BMW does with their hands free system though. I keep bugging On Star about this one when I get surveys. I only want one phone and one phone number for my Cell Service. Help me out with that one guys. It can already be done but On Star has licensing rights to the equipment so they could squash us from connecting a portible phone and by-passing their service.
Enjoy the new ride.
#1123 of 2237 Wrong pictures
Jul 03, 2002 (10:25 am)
In case anybody cares, the pictures Edmunds shows under their 2002 9-5 section are actually MY 2001. I don't know what's going on because they used to show MY '02, but now just the '01 pics as '02. First the wretched 9-5 review (see the July Road&Track for a nice counterpoint), and now the wrong pictures. Does somebody at Edmunds have a beef with Saab?
Jul 04, 2002 (11:20 am)
I recently purchased a 2002 9-5 linear wagon and have noticed two particular noises that are kind of annoying.
1. When I shut off the car I hear a noise coming from the engine (I think it's the a/c compressor shutting down??) It's not a fan but rather a low rumble that dies down after about 2 or 3 seconds.
2. When I make a quick turn left or right a noise from the steering column. Not a scraping noise but again like a rumble.
any advice or anyone with similar issues?
#1125 of 2237 Onstar does not always work right
Jul 05, 2002 (9:52 am)
Thought I would relay a negative onstar experience...
I was in a 9-5 SE wagon. Was hit broadside by
a caddy doing about 50. Airbags deploy....
no call from onstar.
So much for GM promises....
Jul 05, 2002 (10:52 am)
Wow, I hope you're OK, manamal. I wonder if the malfunction occurred with the car, the Onstar installation, or if the defect was in the Onstar alone?
#1127 of 2237 RE: On-Star
Jul 06, 2002 (1:16 pm)
Well, it's not a perfect world. Sorry to hear about your misfortune and I hope everyone is okay.
You obviously own a computer so you know how todays technology can sometimes fail and let us down. I'm sure you've experienced similar failings with your Cell Service as well.
I'd bet the OnStar system has a pretty good track record in these matters but don't forget, it may not even be OnStars fault. They also have to depend on a Reliable Cell signal and Service to work properly. Maybe it was Verison's or WorldComms fault. If you were in a Dead Cell service, it's not really anyones fault. Have you considered that possibility? OnStar is pretty clear about explaining their dependibility on Cellular services and any damage to the equipment in a crash.
Best of luck hope they fix the car fast for you.
#1128 of 2237 Onstar Fairure
Jul 08, 2002 (3:41 am)
I know that onstar works in the area of the accident: the other vehicle was a '01 caddy, and
onstar called him. My guess is that the impact severed a cable in the car or something.
By the way, the car is not reparable. Everything
right of the center console is damaged. (the center console was crushed). The car has been replaced with a Toyota minivan.
#1129 of 2237 Grunch in front end
Jul 12, 2002 (3:48 am)
I have a 2000 9-5 wagon. On a recent trip I had to go over 10 speed bumps in the driveway of the place I was staying. I alway went over slow with the clutch in. The front end made a "grunch" noise when it hit the bumps. The rear was quiet when it went over the same bump.
Is this normal? I have the 30k service coming up. Any thoughts on what to say to the dealer?