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Hyundai XG300, Hyundai XG350, Performance Mods, Sedan
#801 of 2118 Content & Comparisons
Oct 29, 2001 (5:44 pm)
Pulled Edmunds own MSRP info. No price data yet for 2002 XG350, but there is for 2002 Camry. Loaded Camry XLE has $25,890 MSRP (incl destination). Heated front seats cost $315. Pkg 7 costs a mere $1,150 for vehicle skid control, TC, Brake Assist, and side curtain airbags. Then add $2,320 for Pkg 8 which gives leather, sunroof, JBL stereo with in-dash 6-disc CD & 8 speakers, and power front seats. That comes to $29,675. (Package 9 adds DVD navigation system.) Given the higher resale value, I'd say comparable to XG350 costing about $26,000.
Toyota does miss boat by not having roadside assistance during warranty!
Not sure what to make of the 3.5L V-6 or 5-speed automatic. The published acceleration figures for the XG300 were middle of road at best, and the output figures for the 3.5L engine aren't even close to what Nissan gets from 3.5Ls (240 HP Altima or 255 HP) Maxima or Honda gets from 3.2Ls (TL-Type S)!!! Toyota's 3.0L engine puts out almost as much HP as the 3.5L
XG350 still lacks serious safety equipment for their top-of-the-line car and goodies like Nav system. Can't you get the Nav system in Korean versions?
Am hoping Hyundai added some new equipment to XG350 to bring it in line with its intended stature at top of Hyundai's line up.
#802 of 2118 sobright1 and dst5
Oct 29, 2001 (9:52 pm)
Sorry about your accidents. We are so puzzled as to why the airbag was not activated... It would be very helpful if you could kindly update other members with your continuing discovery on the issue.
It is also interesting to note that, in both accidents., XG's structural design has saved passengers, leaving no broken nose or ribs. Somehow, XG has absorbed and dissipated most of the impact energy (at the speeds of around 30 miles per hour for Sobright1 (with no seatbelt !) and around 60 miles per hour for dst5 (presumably with seat belt on)) at around the bumper and in front of engine. And much of those impact energy was not transmitted to the cabin and protected the passengers well from serious injury. Had it been transmitted to the driver;s seat, by now, passenger and drivers's faces and foreheads might have needed intensive cosmetic surgery due to collision against the windshield or passengers could have ended up with broken necks very easily.
If this was an outcome of the advanced design technology of Hyundai, we should all praise the outstanding achievement of Hyundai auto design center. Due to the VERY advanced structural design including impact dynamics, their cars have saved the passengers from deadly impacts, even without the airbag deployed. I have never heard of such advanced design elements on most of cars in the market, other than new BMW5 series that has five star marks on the side impact protection even without the need for side-protection-airbag.
from the potentially serious injury.
sobright1 and dst5; hope you have your cars back quickly ! I feel that this puzzling issue of air-bag should be solved by Hyundai to your complete satisfaction. At the same time, I feel now more comfortable with XG300 that it's structure showed extremely good protection for you.
safe driving !
#803 of 2118 Re:What's the Warranty Worth ??
Oct 30, 2001 (6:43 am)
About$700 and whatever coverage headaches come from the warrantor.
#804 of 2118 Still waiting to hear from Hyundai on airbags
Oct 30, 2001 (9:51 pm)
DST5, I am so sorry to hear of your accident. Doesn't it just make you sick to mess up a new car? I remain concerned about this safety issue. My gut feeling is that Hyundai has a systematic problem somewhere. My car was examined last week by an independent engineer but I have yet to hear anything from Hyundai. I agree that the car is engineered well in that it does absorb much of the impact. However, everyone I talk to who works on cars for a living, including the body shop doing the repair, is surprised that the airbags did not go off. Admittedly, I only know of two accidents involving front end damage to an XG (ME and DST5) but so far Hyundai is batting zero on the airbag issue. DST5, by all means call Hyundai's 1-800 number in your owners manual and also contact the DOT auto safety hotline at 1-888-327-4236. If this is actually a systematic defect we may force a recall, not to be mean spirited toward Hyundai, but to potentially save a life.
By the way, I hope to get my car back by the end of this week if all goes well. Until I hear an update on the airbag issue though I will be apprehensive about its safety. If the explanation is not soon forthcoming, logical, and satisfactory I will be forced to trade the car and find another manufacturer.
#805 of 2118 Mine my be a total loss
Oct 31, 2001 (5:15 am)
Or at best take up to 2 months to put back together. I have called the numbers and the process for the air bags is presently going.
Yea I just hope they total it. I will go buy a 2002 XG350 though I still love the car.
I understand there are no real criteria and that mfg can't be held responsible if air bags do not go off in an accident.
#806 of 2118 Air Bag Issues
Oct 31, 2001 (6:14 pm)
Can you, please, take on the air bag issue with Hyundai Motor America?
Please drop them a line - they listen to Edmunds.
Thanks in advance - it will be for their and our benefit.
#807 of 2118 Re: Post #766 and #772
Nov 01, 2001 (3:17 pm)
I had an accident that was almost identical to yours. I was going 45 - 50 MPH on Lake Shore Dr. (in Chicago) in my 1995 acura integra gs-r when I slammed into the concrete divider. I spun 360 and slammed into the metal railing. The insurance company deemed it a total loss. The important point is that he airbags in my integra did NOT deploy either. In retrospect I'm glad it didn't. The accident did cause my body to lurch forward but the seatbelt was enough to keep me from going into the steering wheel. I feel that if the airbags did deploy I would have had a broken nose, etc. My understanding of the way airbags work is that it is there to protect your face when the accident causes deceleration equivalent to a HEAD-ON collision with a brick wall at 10-15 MPH or a HEAD-ON collision with a similar vehicle at 20-30 MPH. I believe that the severity of an accident as determined by a computer looking at numbers is VERY different from the severity as seen by a human after being in and seeing the aftermath of an accident.
I just re-read sobrights post 2nd post regarding the accident. The information that I just presented about the HEAD-ON collisions came from the "Third Report to Congress on Effectiveness of Occupant Protection Systems and Their Use by the NHTSA US Dept of Transportation." Your accident was quite severe and I'm sure visually it looked extremely severe (broken telephone pole). However hitting a telephone pole at 35 MPH is VERY different (in terms of severity of the force of impact) from a HEAD-ON collision with a similar car (ie Camry, Avalon, Accord etc.) at 20 - 30 MPH. I am not belittling your accident but I feel that the force of impact did not warrant the airbags to deploy. (Notice the MPH difference between a stationary object: the brick wall and a car (since it will rebound after collision) **Brick wall: Min: 10 Max: 15 Similar Car: Min:20 Max: 30 Difference: Min: 10 Max: 15** We could assume that a HEAD-ON collision with a foot wide (assumption on diameter) telephone pole would require a range of 45 - 55 MPH to deploy the airbags.
Ultimately, I'm glad both of you were not seriously injured. I know I was very thankful that I didn't get hurt.
#808 of 2118 carspy01
Nov 01, 2001 (4:57 pm)
My best suggestion is that you drop a line to editoredmunds.com. If you can get their attention, perhaps they can do something that will make a difference.
Keep us posted!
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#810 of 2118 See body of message. I guess I offended someones virgin ears
Nov 02, 2001 (9:05 am)
#777 of 777 I received a letter from Hyundai on lack of air bag deployment by dst5 Nov 01, 2001 (07:32 pm)
Here is what they want me to supply within 14 days for them to do anything.
1.Photos front side and rear, engine compartment,front and rear interior and VIN plate
2. Records of payments to insurance company.
3.Itemized list of damages you are claiming....
4.A description of the hyundai vehicle
5.all reports indicating the cause of the accident
6.date location and details of the accident including usage of the vehicle prior to the accident
7. Purchase documents or bill of sale
8.Repair and maintanince documents
9. Signed owner authorization request
I think this is a load of poo poo (is that clean enough for you?)
What do you folks think about Hyundai's request for information?