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You are in the Hyundai XG300/XG350
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Hyundai XG300, Hyundai XG350, Performance Mods, Sedan
#792 of 2118 Contenting, Safety Features, & Camry
Oct 28, 2001 (4:39 am)
Do keep in mind that the XG350 has not led to a significant upgrade in some areas. Compare it to 2002 Camry or new 2002 Altima on safety equipment. Both of these can get you side curtain airbags. Heck, with Camry you can get brake assist with full EBP. And you can get Vehicle Stability Control system. None of these were available on XG300 nor have I heard them being available on XG350. So I wouldn't say Toyota has de-contented the Camry. Hyundai is lagging in safety options.
Oct 28, 2001 (3:05 pm)
For many people, safety is not an issue. Heck, even if my Rodeo gets terrible scores on safety test, I don't really care Carelessness is very common.
#794 of 2118 safety features....
Oct 28, 2001 (3:29 pm)
Ok, so the XG doesnt come with side curtain airbags, EBD, or VSC... but like you said, these are OPTIONS on the Camry that will cost about $30000 when you load it up with these things. It'd be a waste of time if we keep comparing the XG to a loaded Camry that costs a good 6 grand more. You just cannot argue that the Camry is a better value compared to the XG if you compare them with the same prices -- I doubt you can even get a Camry with leather seating for the price of an XG. If Hyundai was to put out a car for $30K, you can be sure that they would have everything that Toyota has on their cars and more.
#795 of 2118 Apples to Apples
Oct 28, 2001 (5:41 pm)
The XG350L will likely have an MSRP, including freight, of around $26,000. The loaded $29,000 Camry might also have about $3,000 more of safety equipment, unavailable on the XG350. So that means the cars are similarly equipped, just that the XG350 can't be as well equipped. Thus the Camry was NOT decontented. It has significant content you can't even get on an XG350.
I drive carefully. Others don't! I can't keep them off the road. They can hit me. Thus active and passive safety features are important. Give me active features like Brake Assist and EBD. And give me passive features like side curtain airbags. That way when a deer or drunk driver hits me, I might live.
#796 of 2118 Safety Matters
Oct 28, 2001 (8:01 pm)
First of all, I find it difficult to believe that anyone would not care about safety when considering a car purchase.
While is is correct that there are some safety features not available on the XG when compared to a Camry, in some case the XG comes with standard safety features that you must pay extra for on at least some Toyotas. While I will admit my ignorance as to Camry's standard features, I can tell you that one major reason that I purchased an XG over and Avalon or Highlander, both of which I strongly considered, is because side air bags were not standard on either Toyota. In this respect, Toyota is lagging behind.
I reiterate that Camrys are well built, but overpriced, bland, and nearly impossible to differentiate between all of the other earth toned, black trimmed, ugly little cars we have today. Camry interiors are particularly uninspiring, looking more like they belong on a $12,000 Focus instead of a car often costing at twice that much or more. To be fair, I also considered a Maxima but the interior was nearly as stark as that of the Camry.
From a style/design/color perspective automobiles have been going backward for nearly half a century, though have however excelled in mileage, power, and safety. Wouldn't it be nice if we could have both?
#797 of 2118 decontented...
Oct 29, 2001 (12:57 am)
OK, but if you compare the Camry XLE V6 with no options to the XG, you'd find the XG to have memory seats, heated seats, side airbags, traction control, bigger engine (for '02), 5-speed auto, and any others I forget to mention. So, where's the memory seats on the Camry option box? Or the 5-speed auto? Or the 3.5L V6? So is the Camry better equipped than the XG now?
#798 of 2118 AIR BAG ISSUES
Oct 29, 2001 (10:31 am)
I was just this morning in a pretty severe crash with my XG300. I was going 70 MPH in the fast lane of the Ventura freeway just outside of LA and some bozo decided that he would change lanes right into me. I hit the concrete barrier at 60 MPH or so at a better than 45 degree angle (drivers side front is demolished) I than did a 360 across 4 lanes to land on the shoulder of the freeway. I was impressed by the protection given to me as I walked away from the accident with only soreness. All my body parts were still in the right place. However the airbags did not go off. Does it sound like we heard this story before. I am calling Hyundai this morning on this issue.
Oct 29, 2001 (2:39 pm)
Just bought a new XG300L, Black, Loaded, everything but the Disk Changer. I love the 16" wheels, I didn't like the 15's.
Had to drive 200 miles to get it because there were none left in the Kansas City area. I got a 60 month loan at 0% APR. I still can't beleive 0%. I paid about $500 below MSRP and my payments are under $400 a month, I feel I got a great deal. No complaints so far.
#800 of 2118 What's the Warranty Worth ??
Oct 29, 2001 (5:25 pm)
Since there's some discussion about the Camry/XG, let's factor in the warranty. What does a 5 year bumper to bumper warranty cost on a Toyota with a 100K mile/10 year power train warranty thrown in to boot ???????? It's standard/no cost for the XG.
#801 of 2118 Content & Comparisons
Oct 29, 2001 (5:44 pm)
Pulled Edmunds own MSRP info. No price data yet for 2002 XG350, but there is for 2002 Camry. Loaded Camry XLE has $25,890 MSRP (incl destination). Heated front seats cost $315. Pkg 7 costs a mere $1,150 for vehicle skid control, TC, Brake Assist, and side curtain airbags. Then add $2,320 for Pkg 8 which gives leather, sunroof, JBL stereo with in-dash 6-disc CD & 8 speakers, and power front seats. That comes to $29,675. (Package 9 adds DVD navigation system.) Given the higher resale value, I'd say comparable to XG350 costing about $26,000.
Toyota does miss boat by not having roadside assistance during warranty!
Not sure what to make of the 3.5L V-6 or 5-speed automatic. The published acceleration figures for the XG300 were middle of road at best, and the output figures for the 3.5L engine aren't even close to what Nissan gets from 3.5Ls (240 HP Altima or 255 HP) Maxima or Honda gets from 3.2Ls (TL-Type S)!!! Toyota's 3.0L engine puts out almost as much HP as the 3.5L
XG350 still lacks serious safety equipment for their top-of-the-line car and goodies like Nav system. Can't you get the Nav system in Korean versions?
Am hoping Hyundai added some new equipment to XG350 to bring it in line with its intended stature at top of Hyundai's line up.