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Hyundai XG300, Hyundai XG350, Performance Mods, Sedan
Dec 01, 2002 (4:25 pm)
Just came back from the Intl Auto Show in LAS. The XC350 seemed to be attracting more attention than any of the other Hyundai models displayed. It was, of course, a 2002, not a 2003. Their literature depicts the 2004 model, so we know there won't be a 2003. However, except for changes to the lower grill, the car looks just the same as the 2002. Maybe there won't be a 03 so they can clear out the excess 02 inventory.
#1321 of 2117 Question about Automatic Airconditioning
Dec 02, 2002 (5:44 am)
Guys, In the cold morning, when you start your car, if you set your Climate Control to "AUTO" will it automaticly set the blower direction to "LEG" and Fan Speed " 3 Bars"?
Because mine is and it's blowing cold air at my feet. Is it a normal behavior?
#1322 of 2117 Question about Automatic Airconditioning
Dec 02, 2002 (8:23 am)
I've commented on this before, and I'd like to know more about the decision tree for the Auto Climate control. I've got an '02 XG350L and here's what it does on startup on cold mornings:
1. With temps cold, but above 39 degrees F, it blows cold air on my feet, with 3 fan blades showing.
2. With temps below 39 degrees, 1 fan blade shows, and fan speed increases as the engine warms up. This seems like the way it should work.
3. With temps around 32 degrees F, the Defrost light comes on with 1 fan blade showing. After a few minutes, the Defrost light goes out and the system works as in 2., above.
I'd like the fan to stay off until the engine develops enough heat to deliver warm air to the cabin, but in 1., above, this is not the case. Is it time for a nose-to-nose with my dealer?
#1323 of 2117 More about oddities during left-hand turns ...
Dec 02, 2002 (3:01 pm)
Further to post #1265 -
I went on a 40-mile jaunt this afternoon on twisty back roads, to try to get a better feel for the problem.
I don't think that "shudders" was the best word I could have used to describe the symptom.
During left-hand turns, at highway speeds, and especially while accelerating during the turns, the car produces a continual, repetitive, rapid series of what you might call "thumps," or "pounding" or "bumps" that you can hear, and feel through your butt, but are not transmitted noticeably through the steering wheel.
I'm wondering if front wheel bearing or CV joint could be the culprit? I don't have any experience with the mechanicals of front wheel drive cars.
BTW, I don't see any uneven wear on the tires.
Dec 02, 2002 (3:19 pm)
Who's your dealer?
#1326 of 2117 Negative comments...
Dec 02, 2002 (5:39 pm)
I'm a very happy Elantra owner and am comparing the almost universal positive comments on those boards with the largely negative XG posts.
I don't think this is a matter of perception. People expecting more with an expensive car. I think the XG is probably the most trouble prone of any Hyundais. I'm not sure what the age of the XG platform is, undoubtedly it was sold in Korea for some time before bringing it over.
There are no "never buy a new car" warnings with Hyundai. The new platforms seem to be better than the old in the first run of the car. Thus the Elantra seems to be doing better than the Sonata because the platform changed in '01 rather than '99. Hyundai seems to be making these kind of qualitative leaps with each re-engineering.
That being the case, it's too bad this car was introduced when it was, given Hyundai's plans for a new up-scale division. IMHO they should have waited for a new car.
#1327 of 2117 Negative comments...
Dec 03, 2002 (10:17 am)
There are a number of consistent issues that the XG300/350 seems to have (window seal noise, bad batteries, floormat clips, and a variety of transmission behavior complaints), but overall this needs to be kept in perspective. A good many of the issues discussed here have been dealer related. If this forum is an overall indicator, most major problems seem to be isolated to specific instances (only one mention of oil leak problems and only of course the really bad abs brake problem).
To call this car a yugo, as someone did about 20 posts ago, is totally off the mark. My guess is that overall reliability is on par with most American cars, maybe better. All manufacturers create occasional lemons, but I don't think this is the rule here. I paid $23,000 in November 2000 for the base XG300. This car at under $20,000 is an absolute steal. It does have a very high level of content and fit/finish that would cost a lot more in other cars. I have a dealer who has delivered a high level of customer service, and my insurance for my XG300 is no different than it was for my old Subaru Forester. The smooth shifting (most of the time) 5 speed automatic transmission is one of the main reasons that I selected this car.
I think that expectations may be part of the issue here. I compared this vehicle against similarily priced competitors like the Maxima, Avalon, and Sabre. To expect Lexus and Infinity experiences from a car under $20,000 is just unrealistic. Overall I've been pretty pleased.
2001 Base XG300 White
Alpine XM Satellite Radio system
#1328 of 2117 Negative Comments
Dec 03, 2002 (11:49 am)
I am sure that I must have gotten a lemon as I have experienced more than 10 different problems three of which occurred two, three and four times. The engine noise problem seems to be still with me after three tries, even louder now. One thing that I want to mention is that Hyundai seems to have dealer selection problem. The dealer that I have taken mine in for repairs seems to be unable to fix the problems. The engine noise started to bother me ever since the dealer replaced alternator due to computer scan result without further diagnosis. I would think that it was unnecessary replacement which caused one persistent problem.
When it comes to expectation, I agree with newxg. When I bought mine, the XG was standing out of similarily priced competitors in terms of number of features and options. Not any more, I guess. For example, the Honda Accord EX V6 has just about the same options as the XG350 with more powerful engine short of memory seat and automatic chromatic rearview mirror. The Accord has dual climate control though. MSRP is only several hundred dollars apart. In my book, Hyundai should work hard to stay competitive with the Accord. The Toyota Camry XLE V6 at just about the same price is far behind in options though. This is why I opted for repurchase plan. To add, Hyundai at least in my area has been responsive and quick so far. The first problem showed up at 2252 miles on odometer. Current odometer reading is 29,100. Good luck to every XG owners.
#1329 of 2117 Re: Negative Comments
Dec 03, 2002 (2:58 pm)
I have to agree with you that the new Accords have compelling features for the price. The Toyota cars always seem a little pricy when options are added on. Here in the southeast we also have to deal with a regional distributer who get's to charge what is effectively a "tax" (some times in the form of pricy junk add ons like fabric protector) on all Toyota's sold in the region.